Luis Enrique

[Morten]

^He doesn't need time. He needs a different team. And he's not good enough to build a team for him just to see if he's right or wrong. We're not Chelsea to build a different team just because a guy wants to see if we can play italian football.

Give him a break, you are 1-4 points behind our team, which btw have 15(something like that) victories in a row in LL. You comfortably were the better team gainst PSG over two matches, another top team.

 

[serghei]

None taken. And I think you don't see that his problems are fundamental, not the kind of problems they sort themselves out. Lucho is the kind of manager who instructs the players to do what he wants and tells them to do. For Lucho, the player makes the role, not the other way around. He needs to have some task oriented players in his team (another italian component), like the wide midfielders that cover the FBs. He uses Iniesta in a way Fellaini would be better, that's something.

Give him a break, you are 1-4 points behind our team, which btw have 15(something like that) victories in a row in LL. You comfortably were the better team gainst PSG over two matches, another top team.

I couldn't care less how many points we are behind. That's not the issue. Didn't you sack Capello after he won the title in 2007? The results aren't everything you know...

 

[DinhoR10]

None taken. And I think you don't see that his problems are fundamental, not the kind of problems they sort themselves out. Lucho is the kind of manager who instructs the players to do what he wants and tells them to do. For Lucho, the player makes the role, not the other way around. He needs to have some task oriented players in his team (another italian component), like the wide midfielders that cover the FBs. He uses Iniesta in a way Fellaini would be better, that's something.



I couldn't care less how many points we are behind. That's not the issue. Didn't you sack Capello after he won the title in 2007? The results aren't everything you know...

The two AMs no longer cover the FBs as much especially Iniesta, rakitic has to do it sometimes but thats only because he has Alves as opposed to Alba, We no longer play with Messi as a 10 and he and neymar have returned to the wings, we play a completely different system than we did at the start of the season because Lucho saw that it wasn't working so he fixed it. Right now the second AM position (Rakitic) isnt creating enough so Lucho will try to fix it now. Either by helping Rakitic or looking to play Rafinha instead. Rome wasn't built in a day.

 

[Morten]

The two AMs no longer cover the FBs as much especially Iniesta, rakitic has to do it sometimes but thats only because he has Alves as opposed to Alba, We no longer play with Messi as a 10 and he and neymar have returned to the wings, we play a completely different system than we did at the start of the season because Lucho saw that it wasn't working so he fixed it. Right now the second AM position (Rakitic) isnt creating enough so Lucho will try to fix it now. Either by helping Rakitic or looking to play Rafinha instead. Rome wasn't built in a day.

Why couldnt Lucho ask Alves to be a bit lower in the field(seeing as Alves loves crossing, which is quite useless in a midget team anyway), this would give Rakitic more freedom.

 

[serghei]

^That's his only chance of succeeding here, to fix things. Unfortunately, he's bought Rakitic to use him more like an anchor for the RB. Since that idea proved to be a bad one, the transfer itself ceases to be helpful. Meanwhile, Real got Kross.

Why couldnt Lucho ask Alves to be a bit lower in the field(seeing as Alves loves crossing, which is quite useless in a midget team anyway), this would give Rakitic more freedom.

Freedom to do what exactly? Try a long range shot or two? He seems to lack the quality to organize things in midfield. His skillset is limited for a team of Barca's caliber.

 

[Alarcón]

^He doesn't need time. He needs a different team. And he's not good enough to build a team for him just to see if he's right or wrong. We're not Chelsea to build a different team just because a guy wants to see if we can play italian football.

So Lucho's team went frome bad copy of Guardiola's Barca to Italian football. Impressive how you guys keep inventing new BS to strengthen your argument.

 

[serghei]

So Lucho's team went frome bad copy of Guardiola's Barca to Italian football. Impressive how you guys keep inventing new BS to strengthen your argument.

I didn't say his team resembles Guardiola's team. But keep defending Lucho with no base. It's kind of amusing.

 

[i_bleed_blaugrana]

Just because Lucho's managerial style is used in Italian football doesn't mean we are Roma 2.0. He is more task oriented and more on the personal side of man managing his players while Pep develops systems and gets players to fit from there. Neither are better, it just depends on the situation of you're club.

Personally I think the team is showing signs of improvement. I've said for a while that Dani boi countinues to be the weakest link of our team and I think we are much more balanced with him off the pitch. Wish we could see more of Montoya honestly...

Messi is proving right now that it doesn't matter if it's in the false 9, on the right wing or as a cam, he will find a way to score so I think him outside with Suarez through the center will balance the team out offensively.

Madrid will stumble eventually, they can't keep this up forever and if we can pick up a point or two before the return leg a the Camp Nou we can surpass them there.

We drew a very naive Man City in the CL and our young guns are bossing CdR games so while I'm still not sipping the Luchaid yet, it's not over. Hopefully we hit our stride like Celta did last season and perhaps it will be who has the last laugh.

 

[Alarcón]

I didn't say his team resembles Guardiola's team. But keep defending Lucho with no base. It's kind of amusing.

Just like you keep attacking him with laughable arguments. On the whole, this Barça is not very different from the Barça of the last 2 years and I see absolutely nothing that hints at Lucho trying to play "Italian" football. Our players moved even less last year with Tata and it was generally the same with Tito but with the difference that Messi was in immaculate form back then. Did Tito and Tata play Italian football too? Roma played very different from other Italian teams when Lucho was there as well, and stuck to it. Like I said, you're talking nonsense.

 

[Hamzah]

What do you think he means by italian football? I can see where he is coming from.

 

[Alarcón]

What do you think he means by italian football? I can see where he is coming from.

He already said players sticking to their position and not moving is Italian football. If this is his definition of Italian football then he's right but that's only one out of many aspects, there's much more to it than just that and anyone who watches our matches and then matches from Serie A (any team really) knows we're not playing their brand of football at all. Moreover we've been playing like that for almost 3 years so I disagree that these are Lucho's "orders".

 

[linetty]

Just because Lucho's managerial style is used in Italian football doesn't mean we are Roma 2.0. He is more task oriented and more on the personal side of man managing his players while Pep develops systems and gets players to fit from there. Neither are better, it just depends on the situation of you're club.

Personally I think the team is showing signs of improvement. I've said for a while that Dani boi countinues to be the weakest link of our team and I think we are much more balanced with him off the pitch. Wish we could see more of Montoya honestly...

Messi is proving right now that it doesn't matter if it's in the false 9, on the right wing or as a cam, he will find a way to score so I think him outside with Suarez through the center will balance the team out offensively.

Madrid will stumble eventually, they can't keep this up forever and if we can pick up a point or two before the return leg a the Camp Nou we can surpass them there.

We drew a very naive Man City in the CL and our young guns are bossing CdR games so while I'm still not sipping the Luchaid yet, it's not over. Hopefully we hit our stride like Celta did last season and perhaps it will be who has the last laugh.

Great contribution as always :beer2:

 

[Flavia]

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http://www.espnfc.com/spanish-prime...-luis-enrique-no-end-in-sight-writes-sid-lowe

Sid Lowe, spot on.

 

[Zebulun]

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http://www.espnfc.com/spanish-prime...-luis-enrique-no-end-in-sight-writes-sid-lowe

Sid Lowe, spot on.

Spot on indeed, no plan, no system. when i complained about how we depended too much on messi to drop midfield build create and score, people told me how i complain too much. we literally at this point have the blind leading the blind. All those who say lucho needs time, need players need to wake up. To boot, now there are rumours he wants to loan out samper and adama. I blame the socis who're just sitting on their butts and allowing this shit to happen. yes rosell changed the rules to start a no confidence vote but they should at least try.

 

[Morten]

He already said players sticking to their position and not moving is Italian football. If this is his definition of Italian football then he's right but that's only one out of many aspects, there's much more to it than just that and anyone who watches our matches and then matches from Serie A (any team really) knows we're not playing their brand of football at all. Moreover we've been playing like that for almost 3 years so I disagree that these are Lucho's "orders".

Playing "italian football" used to be a good thing, it can still be, but it depends. Italian football was great a few years back, playing "italian football" now is not a sign of great quality.