Luis Enrique

[amircule]

I mean we give Madridista's a lot of shit for their Behavior when things don't go their way but from what I've seen Some Barca fans can be just as bad.

I mean we have our fair share of Drama on here but nothing as bad as I've seen on Twitter or other fanpages in general. when things don't go right way I noticed Lucho,Mascherano,Mathieu are constantly used as scapegoats by some portion of the Barca Fanbase.

I also want to point out how Hilarious some Commentators go on and on how "Barcelona are so Vulnerable at the back!" We have our share of issues at times but when was the last time we truly conceded more than two goals in one game? Sevilla in October?

Vs Depor, that 2-2 draw.

 

[Barcaman]

Only issue I have with Lucho is that he isn't really building a team as much as he is exploiting Messi to win as much titles as we can.

Roberto emerging is, in my opinion, nothing but a stroke of luck as Rafinha (first backup then) got long term injury and we were under transfer ban.
Or playing Munir as there is literally noone else and we all know he'd prefer Nolito.

 

[xXKonan]

That Depor draw I felt like when things started to change.

That day we had a 2 goal advantage and we completely bottled it and the Midfield switched off and Lucho made a mistake with the Mathieu Sub. since then we are able to grind away these games we couldn't seem to do before.

We might have not played some Beautiful football in January and February but the amount of Grinding we did helped us get a possible 11 point gap on Atletico. and if we win Tomorrow we have even more Options to rotate in the League to help us keep fresh for the CL rounds coming up.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Only issue I have with Lucho is that he isn't really building a team as much as he is exploiting Messi to win as much titles as we can.

Roberto emerging is, in my opinion, nothing but a stroke of luck as Rafinha (first backup then) got long term injury and we were under transfer ban.
Or playing Munir as there is literally noone else and we all know he'd prefer Nolito.

Lucho has given the chance to Samper,Munir&Sandro along Rafinha a lot in his 1st year .By the end of the year he started using Roberto as a DM
This year he used Roberto as RB b4 Rafinha injury and he would have probably used him as DM too .Rafinha got him more minutes at CM though
Also he gave Gumbau plenty of chance . same with Kaptoum
You may not like his choices of young players ,but he has given plenty of them chances and it is hard to fault him .also other young players we had whom he didn't play hasn't proved him wrong yet .Alen wasn't ready and he loaned him to a team that he can be starter & Lucho himself watch ,Montoya proved to be a big bust ,Gerard Deulofeu lost his place in Both Sevilla & Everton .Adama isn't even playing in the worst team in the top 4 leagues .Bartra isn't really better than any other CBs Samper has been improving in Barca B but he wasn't ready either .he also seem high on D.Suarez and want him back
We will see about Grimaldo .
So overall I think I actually like how he has been building the team .The sad fact is that we didn't produce any breathtaking talents since Thiago and it is tough to blame Lucho for not using youth much more.

 

[Catalan Fan]

Only issue I have with Lucho is that he isn't really building a team as much as he is exploiting Messi to win as much titles as we can.

Roberto emerging is, in my opinion, nothing but a stroke of luck as Rafinha (first backup then) got long term injury and we were under transfer ban.
Or playing Munir as there is literally noone else and we all know he'd prefer Nolito.

I was going to say something similar earlier, but wasn't sure...

My point was that "if" we did the Treble again, then what next after that ? He's got a group of players with the perfect blend of age/experience to exploit our remaining "Messi years".That's great and understandable, but what next ?

Also, would people prefer that we had a 2/3 yr "golden era" knowing that the following few yrs could be more barren, as the current players will have aged and as of yet we don't see many younger replacements ?

He's thinking short term, just wonder what will happen few yrs down the line.

 

[Aryagorn]

Only issue I have with Lucho is that he isn't really building a team as much as he is exploiting Messi to win as much titles as we can.

Roberto emerging is, in my opinion, nothing but a stroke of luck as Rafinha (first backup then) got long term injury and we were under transfer ban.
Or playing Munir as there is literally noone else and we all know he'd prefer Nolito.

Roberto emerging has got nothing to do with Rafinha's injury? After all it was in DM and RB positions that he excelled and presented his case to Lucho no? And he was actually lauded by each and every manager he got trained by at senior level. It was probably known?

Having that said, Rafinha's injury did help him get a bit of playing time in the mid field

I was going to say something similar earlier, but wasn't sure...

My point was that "if" we did the Treble again, then what next after that ? He's got a group of players with the perfect blend of age/experience to exploit our remaining "Messi years".That's great and understandable, but what next ?

Also, would people prefer that we had a 2/3 yr "golden era" knowing that the following few yrs could be more barren, as the current players will have aged and as of yet we don't see many younger replacements ?

He's thinking short term, just wonder what will happen few yrs down the line.

Yes, it's gonna be a very hard transition period post the current generation, Messi-Suarez-Pique-Busquets etc. But, no matter how well you plan, it's really tough to find players who could readily replace these guys! Especially coz these guys are all in prime years of their career. That I think is the difference between the last generation that won the treble and the current, the last one had a good mix of ageing and young lads so it was easier to ease in younger generation. This one has not got that luxury. So it is probably wiser to try and find the best use of this generation and hope to avoid serious injuries I guess. And also hopefully Neymar would reach at least half his potential!

 

[Catalan Fan]

It will be a hard transition as things stand and it won't be just ageing players, it will probably be a new manager too.

I also think the finances for this new stadium rebuild will curtail our transfer spending, assuming it goes ahead.
Great teams historically have 3 or 4 years at the top at most ?

I don't think some of our younger fans actually realise this tbh, that teams occasionally have these wonderful cycles and it doesn't last forever.

 

[SocalBarcaFan]

Roberto emerging has got nothing to do with Rafinha's injury? After all it was in DM and RB positions that he excelled and presented his case to Lucho no? And he was actually lauded by each and every manager he got trained by at senior level. It was probably known?

Having that said, Rafinha's injury did help him get a bit of playing time in the mid field



Yes, it's gonna be a very hard transition period post the current generation, Messi-Suarez-Pique-Busquets etc. But, no matter how well you plan, it's really tough to find players who could readily replace these guys! Especially coz these guys are all in prime years of their career. That I think is the difference between the last generation that won the treble and the current, the last one had a good mix of ageing and young lads so it was easier to ease in younger generation. This one has not got that luxury. So it is probably wiser to try and find the best use of this generation and hope to avoid serious injuries I guess. And also hopefully Neymar would reach at least half his potential!

It will definitely be tough to keep things rolling after those players leave. But I'm pretty sure people said the same thing when we knew players like Puyol and Xavi were getting older. The good news is we already have a player to build around in Neymar. Of course he comes with some question marks (partying too much, wanting to prove himself elsewhere, etc) but if he avoids those temptations then we are good.

 

[serghei]

He implemented Roberto, Munir and Rafinha effectively in the squad. The rest of the young players he has/had were not good enough (Deulofeu, Adama etc.), or not ready (Halilovic). Especially Roberto and Rafinha, both of these two players grew a lot under Lucho.

He also tried with Bartra, Sandro and Gumbau, but he must be pretty disappointed in them. Lately he has given more time to Samper instead of Gumbau, but he is also not at the required level so he probably won't make it at Barcelona.

 

[Alik]

Only issue I have with Lucho is that he isn't really building a team as much as he is exploiting Messi to win as much titles as we can.

Roberto emerging is, in my opinion, nothing but a stroke of luck as Rafinha (first backup then) got long term injury and we were under transfer ban.
Or playing Munir as there is literally noone else and we all know he'd prefer Nolito.

But like you said, Rafinha was first backup, who is a youngster himself. Not to mention that Roberto made his breakthrough playing RB.

As for Munir, Lucho really trusted him at first, I think. It's just Munir that disappointed. Sandro and Gumbau also got some chances, and now just the other day Samper had his league debut.

 

[Vlom]

I find it a bit harsh to blame Lucho for youngsters, remember that's the first thing he did when he started (ok he pushed it too far may be) but it didn't turn out well for anyone.

I'm very happy with his more rational method of testing them in easy fixtures when it's not too much risk and let them proove themselves, not his fault most of them don't.

It would be a huge mistake to waste Messi (and NS) for the sake of playing LaMasia youngsters no matter their level, the club is probably also in on this, when Messi retires we could have 7 or 8 Champions league titles, VS 10 or 11 for RM, you realize how HUGE that would be ? knowing that before Messi it was 1 to 9 ...

Lucho is doing his best to squeeze this once in a lifetime generation of players that Barça has to stack as many trophies as possible

 

[Barcaman]

Lucho has given the chance to Samper,Munir&Sandro along Rafinha a lot in his 1st year .By the end of the year he started using Roberto as a DM
This year he used Roberto as RB b4 Rafinha injury and he would have probably used him as DM too .Rafinha got him more minutes at CM though
Also he gave Gumbau plenty of chance . same with Kaptoum
You may not like his choices of young players ,but he has given plenty of them chances and it is hard to fault him .also other young players we had whom he didn't play hasn't proved him wrong yet .Alen wasn't ready and he loaned him to a team that he can be starter & Lucho himself watch ,Montoya proved to be a big bust ,Gerard Deulofeu lost his place in Both Sevilla & Everton .Adama isn't even playing in the worst team in the top 4 leagues .Bartra isn't really better than any other CBs Samper has been improving in Barca B but he wasn't ready either .he also seem high on D.Suarez and want him back
We will see about Grimaldo .
So overall I think I actually like how he has been building the team .The sad fact is that we didn't produce any breathtaking talents since Thiago and it is tough to blame Lucho for not using youth much more.

I want to believe but still maintain Roberto emerging was a stroke of luck (Rafinha and Messi injury). Further "proof" of that is actually Turan signing. See, if Lucho saw in Roberto what we all see now, would we still sign Arda?

 

[te amo barca]

Yeah, atm it feels like Arda was an unnecessary signing.

 

[frog-fcb]

Yeah, atm it feels like Arda was an unnecessary signing.

For me turan was bought as cover for iniesta as roberto is more work horse than creative like raki. Also with arda's age it gives a chance for the youth players to progress and earn there chance with the first team. Alternative to arda would most likely have been pogba but with his age the door to the first team would have been slammed shut to young players for years to come

 

[Vlom]

Goes and lines up Bob at RB in arguably the most difficult game left of LaLiga

He reads the forum, for sure haha.