Luis Enrique

gasgas

Senior Member
This way it sounds as our team turned bad this season.
But we are actually in a free fall since February or March of 2016.

That is almost season and a half.
We managed to lose all trophies since then (except a Cdr for whom nobody care).
Spring 2016 we lost Cl, and we won 10 points less than Real.
So, we won la liga last season only because of autumn and winter 2015/16.
Basically, in the last season and a half, we lost 2 cls and real won 15 points more than us in la liga (roughly 10+5).

All we won are cdrs...

I just wanted to say: we didn't turn bad suddenly. And when people say that we won 5 major titles in 2 years, it sounds as we were dominating for long periods.

We had bad first 6 months under Lucho.
Then awesome 12 months.
And then horrible 18 months.

So, imo, yes, we don't have quality, motivated and players who can run anymore.

This period of 15-18 months of a bad form is too long and I can't buy a story that this is just a shorter bad period which will be fixed by a new coach.

How did 4-3-3 work out for you today
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
Madrid might draw a match, but losing a match with their fixtures? I don't know about that...

I also don't know which match can they lose. :( If we win all of them they have to lose one or draw two. And the biggest problem is, when will they play against Celta?
 

ini4ever

Member
How dare you guys ? We've only got 2 days left to play vs Osasuna! Gomes, Arda and Mathieu to start next game against Osasuna in XI :lucho:
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
How did 4-3-3 work out for you today

It was okish.
But our 433 never sucked that much against Real and against their's 433.
433 had in my eyes problems against: Atletico, Juve, Inter, Bayern and similar physically strong teams in a CL.

Plus against a midtable la liga teams on away matches who park the bus and hit us on counters.

Plus, we played without Neymar and thus gained more fluidity and we kept the ball more.
With Neymar and 433, we lose the ball too fast and we find ourselves without a ball most of the time, chasing the opponents with oldies Raki and Iniesta and then when we have the ball, we are dead tired (in midfield).

If you want 433, imo, it could work better with more Barca Dna players like Pedro and similar, and not Neymar since then you have more possession, more triangles and passing than losing the ball after 20 seconds.
If you want to keep Neymar, then imo we should try something else like 4231, 442 or 343.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Neymar can play perfectly fine in 433 and 433 is fine going forward as an option.

Barca go more space today due to Reals arrogance and thinking they were going to attack and turn Barca over.
 

DonAndres

Wild Man of Borneo
Regardless of the win, Lucho's approach today was trash. The tactics and organization were all over the place. Our defensive line was caught up so many times and had to face so many dangerous counters and 1v1 situations. The gap between the back line and our midfield is massive. The point of playing the Barca way is to push up and constrict opponents into a small shape, possession and offense being the first form of defense. The lack of coordination and space coverage made things so easy for Madrid, we were lucky that they were fairly bad and ineffective too.
 

serghei

Senior Member
Regardless of the win, Lucho's approach today was trash. The tactics and organization were all over the place. Our defensive line was caught up so many times and had to face so many dangerous counters and 1v1 situations. The gap between the back line and our midfield is massive. The point of playing the Barca way is to push up and constrict opponents into a small shape, possession and offense being the first form of defense. The lack of coordination and space coverage made things so easy for Madrid, we were lucky that they were fairly bad and ineffective too.

True. There were two similar approaches.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
"These are demanding games that require maximum physical and mental preparation." added Enrique, who will leave the club at the end of the season.

"The fact that we made it 3-2 in the 92nd minute makes it a gargantuan morale booster."

"Messi even makes a difference when he's at home having dinner," Enrique said.

"He is the best player in the history of the game, and I have seen a lot of soccer and a lot of videos. He makes the difference and it's a huge pleasure for all Cules to have him identify as one of us."
 

jamrock

Senior Member
I don't know who to blame Madrid's second goal on, is it him are rakitic & Roberto for giving Marcelo so much space.
 

dakt

Active member
Regardless of the win, Lucho's approach today was trash. The tactics and organization were all over the place. Our defensive line was caught up so many times and had to face so many dangerous counters and 1v1 situations. The gap between the back line and our midfield is massive. The point of playing the Barca way is to push up and constrict opponents into a small shape, possession and offense being the first form of defense. The lack of coordination and space coverage made things so easy for Madrid, we were lucky that they were fairly bad and ineffective too.

The game was won on individual level (Lio, Busi, Stegen, etc.). Lucho spent the whole game on his seat looking totally clueless.
 

Windhook

Well-known member
Some of the things mentioned here are completely false. When Messi equalized for 1-1 Lucho was on the line, raising fists. The cameras also caught him giving instructions to Messi and Iniesta. Or, as haters would suggest, Lucho was asking Messi and Iniesta for permission to bring in Andre Gomes.
 

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