Luis Suárez

booge

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After the new team played again Eibar Do people really want to see Suarez playing through the middle or even as a starter?

I honestly believe anyone infront of Messi is a distraction lmao.


I'd stick Suarez on the left wing lol. This new coach did that once. Pretty solid move. I am impressed.
 

Windhook

Well-known member
I'd stick Suarez on the left wing lol. This new coach did that once. Pretty solid move. I am impressed.

I really hope I'm wrong about that but his dribbling seems to have suffered a great damage since coming to Barcelona. In Liverpool he had a free role to roam the area behind Sturridge, which is nowhere the case in Barcelona. There is another sheriff in town.
 

Messi983

Senior Member
Didn't Messi also had a run of 4 or 5 goalless games before he scored his 100th goal? Or was it 200th? I remember that he chased that goal and missed quite a few chances before he finally got it.
 

Potroh

New member
ok let's say benching is not a good idea.. But how about the second dilemma, the one which you hinted at in the last part ? if he doesn't fit the "new ideas" than how can we play him again ? what would you suggest ?

Well, there are outstandingly good players, who for some reason don't play well or usefully for a long period of time, and there are weak or mediocre players who score some goals or have nice matches or moments.
The average fan on the tribune mostly or usually cares for the actual and immediate result, but the coach needs to have a different angle of view, because he first of all needs outstanding players as being the backbone of the team and he can't build a good team on bench-quality players who occasionally show some good qualities and results.
That's why in a case like Suarez's the coach of course knows that he is an outstanding and very skillful player, just being out of form, having difficulties, etc.

So Valverde has more than one dilemma regarding Suarez's present state and position, because he seems to insist on playing Messi in a much more central position. If you watched the three US games this summer, he tried to bring something different with the MSN, namely Neymar played much more centrally and the 3 of them tried to change positions more often compared to the last season. But Neymar's departure screwed up what he planned and he'd been still experimenting when Dembele got injured.
So although he can experiment further, with Deloufeu or Dennis and the like but will not be able to find a long-term solution until Dembele is back.

This highly complicates Suarez's situation because I doubt Valverde knows at present what he wants, he's just been experimenting.
So IMHO of course he will play Suarez again, because he knows he is better than the other options at hand. But his most natural position is in the center, so he either has to move Messi to the right (which he seemingly doesn't want to do) or has to find another solution.
But any working solution will only be temporary, because Suarez is NOT a winger and if he is not in the goal-scoring role, he hardly has a meaningful position, so I expect to see a lot of different temporary experiments.

The team won these recent games, conceded only two goals but we shouldn't be driven by the mere results, because the attacking formation doesn't work as good as it used to. Only Messi does.
Neither Deloufeu or Dennis represent a long-term solution and by playing Paulinho more and more he has the option of a midfielder being also dangerous, but it doesn't solve the attacking problem and Neymar's place is still vacated.
I think Valverde has no other option but trying to play Suarez centrally and find a method for other players to serve his goal-scoring instincts well enough... Anything else becomes a one-man-show for Messi (and what happens if he got injured???...)

Benching Suarez is not a good solution because just as you've rightly said he is a beast and beasts and carnivorous entities or players just get more nervous when being caged.
Not counting on Suarez would be an even worse solution, because the coach knows that he is an exceptional player, even if in bad form...
 
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raskolnikov

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He could still play in front with Messi around him and dembele switching sides troughout the match. Just need to get his fitness up and hunger back.
 

Sultan

Nosce te ipsum
Once El Pistolero starts firing again, its just a matter of time, we will be much stronger for it. I am not surprised at all these kids who are bashing him because he had few bad games. In this age of instant gratification, patience has gone out the window. If they can't wait more than 3 seconds for a video to load, how can we expect them to wait a couple of weeks for the best striker in the world to regain his form?
 
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Alik

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Once El Pistolero starts firing again, its just a matter of time, we will be much stronger for it. I am not surprised at all these kids who are bashing him because he had few bad games. In this age of instant gratification, patience has gone out the window. If they can't wait more than 3 seconds for a video to load, how can we expect them to wait a couple of weeks for the best striker in the world to regain his form?

Yeah, Suarez has been off-form for just a couple weeks :rolleyes:
 

Barcilliant

Senior Member
Once El Pistolero starts firing again, its just a matter of time, we will be much stronger for it. I am not surprised at all these kids who are bashing him because he had few bad games. In this age of instant gratification, patience has gone out the window. If they can't wait more than 3 seconds for a video to load, how can we expect them to wait a couple of weeks for the best striker in the world to regain his form?

Suarez has been out of form for a long time. It's not just scoring where he's been shit. His passing and first touch have been abysmal, dribbling non existent and finishing woeful. Basically he's either declined badly, out of form o4 can't play in this new position. I'm not sure which it is.
 

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
If we sign Griezmann in the summer, he'll be 3 months younger than Suarez was when we signed him. And we'll already have a world-class player with CL and La Liga experience. Suarez didn't have that when we signed him.

Hope we sign Griezmann in the winter though
 
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