Malcom

Potroh

New member
Complete brainfart.

If it is my brainfart that one doesn't know or remember that Coutinho is right footed, then I'm truly sorry... :angry:
Otherwise Munir's talent and brain is simply not enough in a situation like that. I agree with Vidal's early appearance though.
 

Porque

Senior Member
If it is my brainfart that one doesn't know or remember that Coutinho is right footed, then I'm truly sorry... :angry:
Otherwise Munir's talent and brain is simply not enough in a situation like that. I agree with Vidal's early appearance though.

From my side of course.

Munir isn't the right option consistently for this role but he was a good solution today. Provided an assist and helped with possession and cut ins. If Dembele was indeed matchfit he should of been there though as he has changed the game coming on versus Madrid and Rayo.
 

Messigician

Senior Member
All the top wingers past and present can play on either flank. Robben, Di Maria, Ribery, Sanchez, Bale, Hazard etc even Dembele can which is good.

Saying oh he is out of position etc. Well tough he has Messi to compete wit on the right side and he will never get a game there when Messi is fit.

He needs to develop his weaker foot or leave the club on loan that simple.
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
He is NOT playing on the wrong side. Actually with Messi playing where he is right now in 4-3-3 formation he can ONLY play on the left, so he needs to learn how to play there. Modern wingers need to be able to play on both sides of pitch, simple as that. He is actually lucky that we are playing 4-3-3 because in 4-4-2 formation he wouldn't have place in our lineup at all. Maybe if we switch to 4-2-3-1 he can play on the right side if Messi starts playing as a CAM but in that formation he would have to contribute much more in defense.
 

Cule4life

The Culest
We have people saying that with Messi walking in CL it's like playing with 10 men and here we have BBZ saying playing with Messi is like having two players? Which one is it folks?
 

FCBfan22

Senior Member
Imo:
Messi is worth like 2 creative players.
All other players are worth as 1 creative players.
Some are worth as 0 creative players since they aren't too useful around the box and in the box (Arthur and Rakitic, for example).

When we had Iniesta, we had Iniesta+Alba on a left=2 creative/attacking players around the box
And Messi+Dembele on the right=3 attacking players there (2+1)

Now, without Iniesta, we have no one on the left.
Arthur plays there and he is way more defensive minded and less creative than Iniesta.
So, in this season, we have:
Alba on a left=1 player
And Dembele/Malcom+Messi in your formation=3 players (Messi is worth as 2 players)

So, in your formation, our left side would rely only on Alba.
Arthur is too defensive minded and the closest player to Alba is Suarez who struggles with first touch and simple passes.

So, when "stupid" EV plays Alba+Dembele/Malcom/Coutinho on a left and Messi in the middle, center and on the right, we actually have:
2 players on a left (Dembele and Alba)
And 2 players on a right (Messi who is worth for two), helped by Roberto.

So, in some way, this tactic is actually the most balanced tactic when you are comparing left and right side.
Also, if you add Roberto on the right into the mix, who is offering more build up around the box and in the box than Arthur on the left, then we would have this in your formation:
On the left: Alba
On the right: Messi+Dembele+Roberto
1 vs 4 players (again, if Messi is worth as 2 players).

Now, if you'll ask: why have we bought Malcom then who is more suited to the right side?
Well, that is a whole different question.
I have no idea.

The answer is probably: low risk, high potential reward.
If he'll make it=awesome.
If not=an investment was worth a shot.


Just gonna leave this here. Messi counts for 2 on RW right? 2 square kilometers of empty space?

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Jombi

New member
He is NOT playing on the wrong side. Actually with Messi playing where he is right now in 4-3-3 formation he can ONLY play on the left, so he needs to learn how to play there. Modern wingers need to be able to play on both sides of pitch, simple as that. He is actually lucky that we are playing 4-3-3 because in 4-4-2 formation he wouldn't have place in our lineup at all. Maybe if we switch to 4-2-3-1 he can play on the right side if Messi starts playing as a CAM but in that formation he would have to contribute much more in defense.

He's not a winger obviously. He's a support forward. I think he should definitely leave. The current situation is completely hopeless.
 
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BBZ8800

Senior Member
Just gonna leave this here. Messi counts for 2 on RW right? 2 square kilometers of empty space?

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Ok, look at your pic then:
Left side:
LB Alba and NO ONE

Right side:
RB Robrto and NO ONE

In the middle: Suarez, Messi, Arthur, Rakitic, Busquets.

NONE of our current midfielders is an attacking threat, except Coutinho, but he can't defend.
In attack, we have 2 men in the middle.
And one flank will be dead either way.

I know, some of you will suggest again:
Play Dembele-Messi-Malcom.

But, for me:
Dembele is not good for Barca and a bad fit.
Messi sucks as a false 9 in 2018'.
Malcom is not good enough for Barca.

So, you can either have Dembele-Messi-Malcom attack with 2 wingers, where 2 out of these 3 players shouldn't play for Barca at all.
Or you will play some Suarez-Messi-and someone else attack, with 2 world class players, with zero wingers and hope for the best.
 

Xaviniesta

Senior Member
Malcom: 82 min in La liga, 9 min in CL, and 80 min in CdR

BBZ: "Malcom is not good enough" :lol:

Patience is a virtue mate. Give him a season at least before you come to that conclusion.
 
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Bulgroz

Senior Member
I mean, he has an overall score of 83 in FIFA 19, with a potential of 89, so surely he's good enough to play for Barca !
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
I mean, he has an overall score of 83 in FIFA 19, with a potential of 89, so surely he's good enough to play for Barca !

Since you are a funny guy, do you wanna bet what will happen with Malcom in a few Months?
And his future career regarding top level teams, after we will sell him?

Malcom: 82 min in La liga, 9 min in CL, and 80 min in CdR

BBZ: "Malcom is not good enough" :lol:

Patience is a virtue mate. Give him a season at least before you come to that conclusion.

Patience is a virtue, yet majority has seen that Gomes is NOT a player for Barca even after a few matches.
Or Gumbau.
Or Douglas.
Or Munir.
Or Deulofeu.
Or Paco.

Or Dembele and Malcom.

Nothing is certain in life and set in stone, but you can see some things if you are not biased and too emotional about players.
Dembele has (on paper) skills good enough for Barca.
But he lacks IQ, professionalism and he isn't "our" type of a player.

Malcom for now seems like a good guy and a very good footballer.
But nowhere near Barca's level.

Yet, people act as if this is some kind of an insult.
99,999% players in the world are not Barca's level.
90-100% players of majority of NT teams around the world are not Barca's level.

But fine, let's wait a few more Months until more people will realize things which were clear even after 100 or 200 minutes.
And that is:
Malcom: 82 min in La liga, 9 min in CL, and 80 min in CdR

Plus preseason matches and you can freely add Malcom's matches from France.

One more time, he is way too slow even compared to average footballers, not only compared to pacey wingers.
His dribbles are decent, but not out of this world.
And he can score some goals.

One more time, I don't have absolutely anything against this guy.
The same as with Paco, Deulofeu, Samper, Denis and similar.
But imo, he is that tier of players and not in Barca's tier.

But let's wait a few more Months until it will be correct to write off a player.
But even then we'll get replies like:
We need a new manager, no one can improve under EV.
Or: this was his first season. Let's wait how will he play in the 2nd season.
Or my favorite: He is only 22. He is young and has potential. Let's wait more time. Remember what happened with De Bruyne and Salah.
Or: Luka Modric was playing at Dinamo Zagreb at that age and look where is he now.
 
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Cule4life

The Culest
BBZ calls us emotional for not dismissing Malcom after 82 mins of playtime while he has been defending Valverde after 1.5 seasons of shithousery.

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