Malcom

[-_- RandomUser -_-]

Greece is 14th on Uefa club's rankings.
Netherlands, about which a lot of guys are raving, is 11th.

I'm from Greece. Believe me the 14th place for Greece is extremely flattering, watching a game of Greek league is the worst thing that can happen in the life of a football fan. I still have nightmares after watching games like Ksanthi - Paok etc..
Nothing to do with the quality of the Netherlands.

 

[BBZ8800]

14th? How this is going to help your argument? You made fun of the French league being inferior and it ranked 5th. Oh yes, you brought another country to make your purposeless argument looks more valid. The Netherlands produced world class players and coaches the past 50 years, from Cruyff and Van Hanegem in the 70s to Marco Van Basten, Gullit, Rijkaard, and Koeman in 80s, Bergkamp and Edgar Davids, Seedorf in 90s, Arjen Robben and Wesley Sneijder later on. Do I need to give you 101 on Holland? I was assuming you don't need that history lesson because you being a Barca fan. Now how many world-class players or managers did Greece produce?

Why even posting false stats?
Greece, won Euro 2004 with 11 players from their domestic league.
Where EV won a few titles 5 years later.

Anyway: yeah, EV lost to Roma and Liverpool in a bad, bad way.
Ev plays ugly, true.
But your post is similar to a new trend where: everything connected with EV is a pure shit and his every single decision at Barca was wrong.
Which is not true.

 

[Lapi]

Out of all Dutch famous players and coaches, they have 1 major title in their history.
Euro 1988, 31 years ago.
Greece, won Euro 2004 with 11 players from their domestic league.
Where EV won a few titles 5 years later.

Anyway: yeah, EV lost to Roma and Liverpool in a bad, bad way.
Ev plays ugly, true.
But your post is similar to a new trend where: everything connected with EV is a pure shit and his every single decision at Barca was wrong.
Which is not true.

You see, just a typical example of your "analytic" reflections.
Somebody tells you about outstanding players and coaches the Netherlands produced, then you start talking about TITLES... not even giving a damn shit about what someone mentioned to you in a conversation.

Why because the only path for you is redundantly speaking about your own agenda... and that's all.

Later (in a relatively brief post) you start your own argument with yourself about Valverde, who wasn't even mentioned in the post you answered to.
In your mere 4 sentences related to EV, there are 3 that are DIRECTLY and diametrically opposed to your own statements in sentence 1&2.

Perhaps one day you will understand why the majority here is considering your posts as laughable...

 

[George_Costanza]

Why even posting false stats?
Greece, won Euro 2004 with 11 players from their domestic league.
Where EV won a few titles 5 years later.

Anyway: yeah, EV lost to Roma and Liverpool in a bad, bad way.
Ev plays ugly, true.
But your post is similar to a new trend where: everything connected with EV is a pure shit and his every single decision at Barca was wrong.
Which is not true.

I didn't post false stats, I posted UEFA country coefficient which is not the correct one to use may be in the first post, but it's relevant to your above post!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_coefficient

 

[xXKonan]

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[Devils]

He would be wise to continue only if we had a new manager.

No black player is going to thrive under EV, seeing as he is so eager to get rid of them all, dawg.

 

[Andrew M]

You can accuse Valverde of many things but being racist is probably a step too far.

 

[serghei]

You can accuse Valverde of many things but being racist is probably a step too far.

Yea, I agree. He's ageist not racist.

 

[BBZ8800]

You can accuse Valverde of many things but being racist is probably a step too far.

Yes.
Plus, two men in which EV is secretly in love are a blond guy Raki and a black guy Willian.
Umtiti played a lot last season.
Wague is getting chances lately.
Rafinha was getting a lot of minutes early in a season before injuries.
He even gave chances to Boateng.

It is not EV's fault that other guys like Dembele, Malcom and Semedo are either meh or forever injured.

 

[aqua2nd]

Rakitic played every matches despite his bad form - "EV doesn't know to rotate and is too coward to bench veteran player"
Malcom got benched for months after a good game - "EV knows better than us, he sees things in training"

People simply speculate theories which fit their agenda

 

[Tackle]

Rakitic played every matches despite his bad form - "EV doesn't know to rotate and is too coward to bench veteran player"
Malcom got benched for months after a good game - "EV knows better than us, he sees things in training"

People simply speculate theories which fit their agenda

Rakitic is vilified as a "serial back pass merchant" and "coward" by most of the fanbase.

Yet that same Rakitic averaged only 0.1 dribble less than the great, can't miss talent Malcom.

Top stuff mate.

Don't mind the fact that a risk averse "coward" midfielder like Rakitic is completing the same number of successful dribbles as the "explosive, direct" winger Malcom, the only possible reason why Malcom isn't playing is because of that racist muppet Valverde!

It must be the fault of that evil boogeyman Valverde that a player linked to Roma, Arsenal and Dortmund is failing here!

 

[BBZ8800]

Rakitic played every matches despite his bad form - "EV doesn't know to rotate and is too coward to bench veteran player"
Malcom got benched for months after a good game - "EV knows better than us, he sees things in training"

People simply speculate theories which fit their agenda

You guys are way too positive and you give too many credits to players.

So, wait: Malcom had a good game against RM in a CDR?
And so what, we should hand him a new 5 years deal based on that?

Malcom played 22 matches for Barca this season.
900 minutes in total.

What people are often doing here when they like a player=they are looking ONLY at his good games and take those good games as "a player's standard".

For example:
Malcom played good against Real Madrid and Inter=that is his real standard
Malcom was very bad to average in majority of other matches=that is not his standard. That happened because he wasn't getting a playing time, so he was rusty.

Arthur played well for 2-3 Months in October, November, December=that is his real standard, according to fans
Arthur played bad in the last 2-3 Months of a season=that is not his standard. That was due to some mysterious injury or a lack of confidence, for which is, as always, EV responsible.

Dembele played well for 2-3 Months out of his 24 Months at Barca=fans will again rate those rare Months=as his TRUE level.
Dembele was horrible to meh in other 21 Months=that is not his real level. That was due to injuries (where EV was guilty again, forcing him to play), or a lack of confidence (where EV is guilty again, lol) or insert random 100s of excuses.

My point is=a player's true level is an average sum of all of his matches.
The funny thing is how Rakitic was awesome at World cup, but fans here won't say=Rakitic is awesome, he was awesome at World cup and that is his real level.
No, what will people say=Rakitic's real level is hiding behind players against Liverpool and making a mistake for the 2nd goal.
But again, in a case of Malcom or Arthur, their true level is not their worst period, but their best period

Anyway, my point:
Rakitic is both a guy who plays well sometimes and who has 3 average matches after one good match.
Malcom is both a guy who can offer a world class match or a goal here and there. But who will be on Munir's level in the next 5 matches, without any obvious strengths in his play.
Dembele is both a guy who can be a world class in some Months and by far the worst player on the pitch for several Months after that.

So, let's go back to your post: Malcom played good against RM. So what?
We paid 40M for him.
Of course that a 40M guy will play good matches and score some goals.
The sad thing is, a 40M should have offered way more than 2-3 good matches. And that is NOT only because of EV.
Malcom had lots of chances against shit opponents but he played very, very bad.

And as I have mentioned a few weeks before, there is one statistical problem regarding Malcom.
WHENEVER this guy starts as a starter, we are playing a crappy match.
His all starts for Barca this season:
1. Barca:Betis 3:4, 57 minutes (Malcom, Suarez, Messi)
2. CDR, Levante:Barcelona 2:1, 67 minutes (Coutinho, Malcom, Dembele)
3. CDR, Sevilla:Barcelona 2:0, 63 minutes (Malcom, Boateng)
4. CDR, Barca:Real 1:1, 76 minutes (Coutinho, Suarez, Malcom)
5. Villareal:Barca 4:4, 90 minutes (Coutinho, Suarez, Malcom)
6. Huesca:Barcelona 0:0, 90 minutes (Malcom, Boateng, Dembele)
7. Celta:Barcelona 2:0, 90 minutes (Malcom, Boateng, Dembele)
8. Barcelona:Getafe 2:0, 78 minutes. FINALLY a win! (Coutinho, Messi, Malcom)
9. Eibar:Barcelona 2:2, 73 minutes (Malcom, Messi, Roberto)

9 matches with Malcom as a starter.
We won only ONCE.

But hey, he played well against RM once...

 

[aqua2nd]

You guys are way too positive and you give too many credits to players.

So, wait: Malcom had a good game against RM in a CDR?
And so what, we should hand him a new 5 years deal based on that?

Malcom played 22 matches for Barca this season.
900 minutes in total.

What people are often doing here when they like a player=they are looking ONLY at his good games and take those good games as "a player's standard".

For example:
Malcom played good against Real Madrid and Inter=that is his real standard
Malcom was very bad to average in majority of other matches=that is not his standard. That happened because he wasn't getting a playing time, so he was rusty.

Arthur played well for 2-3 Months in October, November, December=that is his real standard, according to fans
Arthur played bad in the last 2-3 Months of a season=that is not his standard. That was due to some mysterious injury or a lack of confidence, for which is, as always, EV responsible.

Dembele played well for 2-3 Months out of his 24 Months at Barca=fans will again rate those rare Months=as his TRUE level.
Dembele was horrible to meh in other 21 Months=that is not his real level. That was due to injuries (where EV was guilty again, forcing him to play), or a lack of confidence (where EV is guilty again, lol) or insert random 100s of excuses.

My point is=a player's true level is an average sum of all of his matches.
The funny thing is how Rakitic was awesome at World cup, but fans here won't say=Rakitic is awesome, he was awesome at World cup and that is his real level.
No, what will people say=Rakitic's real level is hiding behind players against Liverpool and making a mistake for the 2nd goal.
But again, in a case of Malcom or Arthur, their true level is not their worst period, but their best period

Anyway, my point:
Rakitic is both a guy who plays well sometimes and who has 3 average matches after one good match.
Malcom is both a guy who can offer a world class match or a goal here and there. But who will be on Munir's level in the next 5 matches, without any obvious strengths in his play.
Dembele is both a guy who can be a world class in some Months and by far the worst player on the pitch for several Months after that.

So, let's go back to your post: Malcom played good against RM. So what?
We paid 40M for him.
Of course that a 40M guy will play good matches and score some goals.
The sad thing is, a 40M should have offered way more than 2-3 good matches. And that is NOT only because of EV.
Malcom had lots of chances against shit opponents but he played very, very bad.

And as I have mentioned a few weeks before, there is one statistical problem regarding Malcom.
WHENEVER this guy starts as a starter, we are playing a crappy match.
His all starts for Barca this season:
1. Barca:Betis 3:4, 57 minutes (Malcom, Suarez, Messi)
2. CDR, Levante:Barcelona 2:1, 67 minutes (Coutinho, Malcom, Dembele)
3. CDR, Sevilla:Barcelona 2:0, 63 minutes (Malcom, Boateng)
4. CDR, Barca:Real 1:1, 76 minutes (Coutinho, Suarez, Malcom)
5. Villareal:Barca 4:4, 90 minutes (Coutinho, Suarez, Malcom)
6. Huesca:Barcelona 0:0, 90 minutes (Malcom, Boateng, Dembele)
7. Celta:Barcelona 2:0, 90 minutes (Malcom, Boateng, Dembele)
8. Barcelona:Getafe 2:0, 78 minutes. FINALLY a win! (Coutinho, Messi, Malcom)
9. Eibar:Barcelona 2:2, 73 minutes (Malcom, Messi, Roberto)

9 matches with Malcom as a starter.
We won only ONCE.

But hey, he played well against RM once...

I didn't mean to discuss how good Malcom is
I just simply pointed out the paradox that I observed
From your stats I can see that he played 9 games with almost all different combinations, also for many CDR games we used mostly young players. That's the fact that your statistic doesn't show.
Anyway he seems to really want to prove himself for us so I think that we should keep him for at least one season and give him some real chances. A big factor here is he is a young player who still can develop greatly with the right mindset

 

[Adversus]

Yea, I agree. He's ageist not racist.

Most coaches for top teams tend to be. I'm sure however he would play a 21 year old Messi.

I can understand him wanting to stay. It's his big break and plenty of players win their place. Look at Roberto.

 

[raedkuwait]

You guys are way too positive and you give too many credits to players.

So, wait: Malcom had a good game against RM in a CDR?
And so what, we should hand him a new 5 years deal based on that?

Malcom played 22 matches for Barca this season.
900 minutes in total.

What people are often doing here when they like a player=they are looking ONLY at his good games and take those good games as "a player's standard".

For example:
Malcom played good against Real Madrid and Inter=that is his real standard
Malcom was very bad to average in majority of other matches=that is not his standard. That happened because he wasn't getting a playing time, so he was rusty.

Arthur played well for 2-3 Months in October, November, December=that is his real standard, according to fans
Arthur played bad in the last 2-3 Months of a season=that is not his standard. That was due to some mysterious injury or a lack of confidence, for which is, as always, EV responsible.

Dembele played well for 2-3 Months out of his 24 Months at Barca=fans will again rate those rare Months=as his TRUE level.
Dembele was horrible to meh in other 21 Months=that is not his real level. That was due to injuries (where EV was guilty again, forcing him to play), or a lack of confidence (where EV is guilty again, lol) or insert random 100s of excuses.

My point is=a player's true level is an average sum of all of his matches.
The funny thing is how Rakitic was awesome at World cup, but fans here won't say=Rakitic is awesome, he was awesome at World cup and that is his real level.
No, what will people say=Rakitic's real level is hiding behind players against Liverpool and making a mistake for the 2nd goal.
But again, in a case of Malcom or Arthur, their true level is not their worst period, but their best period

Anyway, my point:
Rakitic is both a guy who plays well sometimes and who has 3 average matches after one good match.
Malcom is both a guy who can offer a world class match or a goal here and there. But who will be on Munir's level in the next 5 matches, without any obvious strengths in his play.
Dembele is both a guy who can be a world class in some Months and by far the worst player on the pitch for several Months after that.

So, let's go back to your post: Malcom played good against RM. So what?
We paid 40M for him.
Of course that a 40M guy will play good matches and score some goals.
The sad thing is, a 40M should have offered way more than 2-3 good matches. And that is NOT only because of EV.
Malcom had lots of chances against shit opponents but he played very, very bad.

And as I have mentioned a few weeks before, there is one statistical problem regarding Malcom.
WHENEVER this guy starts as a starter, we are playing a crappy match.
His all starts for Barca this season:
1. Barca:Betis 3:4, 57 minutes (Malcom, Suarez, Messi)
2. CDR, Levante:Barcelona 2:1, 67 minutes (Coutinho, Malcom, Dembele)
3. CDR, Sevilla:Barcelona 2:0, 63 minutes (Malcom, Boateng)
4. CDR, Barca:Real 1:1, 76 minutes (Coutinho, Suarez, Malcom)
5. Villareal:Barca 4:4, 90 minutes (Coutinho, Suarez, Malcom)
6. Huesca:Barcelona 0:0, 90 minutes (Malcom, Boateng, Dembele)
7. Celta:Barcelona 2:0, 90 minutes (Malcom, Boateng, Dembele)
8. Barcelona:Getafe 2:0, 78 minutes. FINALLY a win! (Coutinho, Messi, Malcom)
9. Eibar:Barcelona 2:2, 73 minutes (Malcom, Messi, Roberto)

9 matches with Malcom as a starter.
We won only ONCE.

But hey, he played well against RM once...

Thats load of shit, u cant judge by the total mins he played, out of 900 min he played, 700 of the was
In a meaningless games and with back up players, look at the games he played, with boateng , you
Cant really judge him tell he playes with startes
And most of the games he played with messi he showed
He is a good player.