EdmondDantes
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And the irony is, the media/pundits and even fans can't get enough of bashing Spain/La Liga/ Real Madrid/Spanish press for daring criticise and expose Bale's dreadful 18 months.
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And the irony is, the media/pundits and even fans can't get enough of bashing Spain/La Liga/ Real Madrid/Spanish press for daring criticise and expose Bale's dreadful 18 months.
serghei
Senior Member
The main problem with United, I think, it's that the players they rate highly (the club, the coaching staff, and the fans as well) are really not that great. Many of their first teamers are average players. If you follow the Martial thread on Redcafe, you'd think he's some sort of French version of Neymar, that's how highly they think of him. In reality, Williams from Bilbao is very close to Martial. Just an example.
Another example is Schneiderlin. Great player according to many United fans, yet, at 26, his European experience is almost zero. Zilch. Non-existent. Is that, really, a great player? How?
EPL is like a bubble where standards are created by the system and they exist only within the system. Average players are called great, and good players are considered incredible, or world class. There are maybe 5-6 world class players in the entire league. United has (arguably) one, De Gea. And his form is nothing special right now, I think Claudio Bravo is better at the minute.
United is the best example of a distorted Premier League type of rating players.
A film like Moneyball (with Brad Pitt, just watched it again yesterday, great movie) could be made based on the british style of evaluating professional football players.
Actually, what happens at Leicester FC reminds me of Moneyball, players that nobody rated, nobody even knew they existed (let alone had interest in buying), have taken the no1 spot in that League just by following basic football principles. It's a clear example something is way off in England. Way off.
Another example is Schneiderlin. Great player according to many United fans, yet, at 26, his European experience is almost zero. Zilch. Non-existent. Is that, really, a great player? How?
EPL is like a bubble where standards are created by the system and they exist only within the system. Average players are called great, and good players are considered incredible, or world class. There are maybe 5-6 world class players in the entire league. United has (arguably) one, De Gea. And his form is nothing special right now, I think Claudio Bravo is better at the minute.
United is the best example of a distorted Premier League type of rating players.
A film like Moneyball (with Brad Pitt, just watched it again yesterday, great movie) could be made based on the british style of evaluating professional football players.
Actually, what happens at Leicester FC reminds me of Moneyball, players that nobody rated, nobody even knew they existed (let alone had interest in buying), have taken the no1 spot in that League just by following basic football principles. It's a clear example something is way off in England. Way off.
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MaxY
Devil May Cry
United has to have the shittiest board ever. First they hire LVG,who is the closest one to Rafa Benitez,many of his own players hate him. They got rid of Chicha,Nani and RVP for 16-17 M combined LOL. They have spent 250 M pounds in last 2 summer transfer windows while getting back 100 M. 250 M yet their first XI imo is worse when compared to ANY top team. 250 M yet there isn't a single star name that could lead the team.
Splashing money on Depay and Martial isn't the wrong decisions,they're both top class talents. The problem is that you can't hunt for EPL and UCL while buying like that. Depay and Martial aren't good enough to get you those titles in the next few years yet you don't have star players who should carry their burden until they become good enough.
Splashing money on Depay and Martial isn't the wrong decisions,they're both top class talents. The problem is that you can't hunt for EPL and UCL while buying like that. Depay and Martial aren't good enough to get you those titles in the next few years yet you don't have star players who should carry their burden until they become good enough.
serghei
Senior Member
[MENTION=19453]MaxY[/MENTION], mostly, I agree.
The Chicharito deal, in particular, was amazing for me. I saw him entering the field 3 times as a sub, and all 3 times United's chances went up as a direct result of that substitution. A player like that, you see him scoring in a CL quarterfinal, a decisive goal vs Atletico, and you let him go, and 2 months later you use fucking Fellaini as a no9, while Chicharito is tearing it up in Champions and Bundesliga, scoring amazing goals as well, most of them the work of a true no9. I mean, how dumb can you get? There has to be a limit.
I swear, people on this site need to appreciate our board more. Financial problems aside, from a sporting perspective, they are leagues above what you see in England.
The Chicharito deal, in particular, was amazing for me. I saw him entering the field 3 times as a sub, and all 3 times United's chances went up as a direct result of that substitution. A player like that, you see him scoring in a CL quarterfinal, a decisive goal vs Atletico, and you let him go, and 2 months later you use fucking Fellaini as a no9, while Chicharito is tearing it up in Champions and Bundesliga, scoring amazing goals as well, most of them the work of a true no9. I mean, how dumb can you get? There has to be a limit.
I swear, people on this site need to appreciate our board more. Financial problems aside, from a sporting perspective, they are leagues above what you see in England.
MaxY
Devil May Cry
I'm gonna combine previous post with this one to put things in perspective:
-Stoke City keep their first clean sheet against Man United in Premier League history. #SCFC
-United had 18 wins and 1 lost on Boxing Day before this game
- Man Utd have lost four competitive matches in a row within a single season for the first time since October-November 1961.
-In the history of the Premier League, 29 points is Man United’s lowest ever points tally after 18 games. #MUFC
-Man Utd fail to win 7 consecutive games in all competitions for the first time since Jan 1990, almost 26 years ago.
Last time Man United failed to win in 7 games:
• Premier League didn't exist
• AC Milan were European champions
• David de Gea wasn't born
-Stoke City keep their first clean sheet against Man United in Premier League history. #SCFC
-United had 18 wins and 1 lost on Boxing Day before this game
- Man Utd have lost four competitive matches in a row within a single season for the first time since October-November 1961.
-In the history of the Premier League, 29 points is Man United’s lowest ever points tally after 18 games. #MUFC
-Man Utd fail to win 7 consecutive games in all competitions for the first time since Jan 1990, almost 26 years ago.
Last time Man United failed to win in 7 games:
• Premier League didn't exist
• AC Milan were European champions
• David de Gea wasn't born
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But...the philosophy, man!
Jenks
Senior Member
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Dafuq?!
This , SAF left a depleted squad tbf and it was bound to breakdown and rebuilt was imminent despite winning the League in his last year
Moyes didn't do them good and now they are basically in the hunt for players who can elevate the team . only superstar they got was ADM and it ended badly
Player like Martial has the potential but can't carry the team .Depay seem like a player who has potential but very good chance he waste it
LVG has had no major rifts by the looks of it, but the players just do not believe in his philosophy anymore. His style of football requires more talented players, and our players just do not possess the technical ability to play his style. We need a coach that can play more simple football and not over complicate the game.
Clockwise
Buccaneer
Mou-yes... they are moving toward their destiny...
EdmondDantes
New member
What was Depay thinking man...ruined their game plan from the start.
vinni
Member
What did he do? Stuck on a airport atm..
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