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JamDav1982

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So what? Thats just how he is, a low class glaswegian. He is a close shave to be best manager to has ever graced our stadium, before him we had to deal with shite like Atkinson and Mcguinness, least he is not a timid gentlement as wenger (appears to be) you need that personality to be at a top clubs



Fellaini is too immobile, cant pass, cant create the oppositions just runs past him like he is not there. Giggs is still a great player, personally id prefer Cleverley.

Edit : BTW nani was sent off for less than that challenge on chicharito...the defender came from behind him this time.

Yeah and Chicarito rolled about holding his face when foot nowhere near.

Can imagine a Man Utd forum if that was Alves or Busquets.
 

Martindn

New member
Yeah and Chicarito rolled about holding his face when foot nowhere near.

Can imagine a Man Utd forum if that was Alves or Busquets.

It would still be a foul regardless, i only meant that nani got sent off for worse, im not saying it was a red card for that defender of course not.

Why cant we be this sharp against fucking southampton? It was the same Vs leverkusen.
 

S7_MUFC

New member
It would still be a foul regardless, i only meant that nani got sent off for worse, im not saying it was a red card for that defender of course not.

Why cant we be this sharp against fucking southampton? It was the same Vs leverkusen.
Because we had Fellaini screwing up everything and Sociedad are awful..........
 

Martindn

New member
Because we had Fellaini screwing up everything and Sociedad are awful..........

Yeah they dont look too good, but energy and commitment does a lot, we always look slow and lethargic in the league it reminds me of the 6 games at end of last season like we havnt got going. I thought Fellaini played really well vs leverkusen, at least first half, cant be all on one players head that midfield has always been weak.
 

S7_MUFC

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Yeah they dont look too good, but energy and commitment does a lot, we always look slow and lethargic in the league it reminds me of the 6 games at end of last season like we havnt got going. I thought Fellaini played really well vs leverkusen, at least first half, cant be all on one players head that midfield has always been weak.
Fellaini was decent against leverkusen but he's been awful since then...He's so bad that even giggs looks like a better choice for that position....Giggs has been good so far to be honest..........
 

Martindn

New member
So ashley young coming on...Got Nani and Januzaj on the bench...no doubt kagawa, our best player in the second half go off.
 

Ketoth

New member
So what? Thats just how he is, a low class glaswegian. He is a close shave to be best manager to has ever graced our stadium, before him we had to deal with shite like Atkinson and Mcguinness, least he is not a timid gentlement as wenger (appears to be) you need that personality to be at a top clubs

That's not true. Plenty of managers before and after his time have showed that you can be successful at a top club whilst being a class manager (yes Wenger included). SAF holds grudges against his own players, he intimidates them. There is a fine line between encouraging your players by demanding more, and verbally or physically assaulting them. SAF crossed it so often.
 

S7_MUFC

New member
That's not true. Plenty of managers before and after his time have showed that you can be successful at a top club whilst being a class manager (yes Wenger included). SAF holds grudges against his own players, he intimidates them. There is a fine line between encouraging your players by demanding more, and verbally or physically assaulting them. SAF crossed it so often.
But most of his players have huge respect for him and in my opinion they should be the ones to judge him not us.......
 

Beast

The Observer
Have to say , SAF makes Mourinho the sanest manager on the planet

how the mighty have fallen .... the man turned into a complete filth ... i can't believe how much of a bitter man he is....

Sir Adolf Filthier
 

veryfatchocobo

New member
I wonder if Moyes will finally play Kagawa as a #10, such a waste a player like him isnt being played in his best position....
Don't think so. He likes Rooney better as a CF (SS). SAF was the same. I think either Kagawa will just have to accept LW (as a traditional winger) or be benched.
 

Martindn

New member
Hopefully he showed what he can do against Sociedad, we cant keep playing rooney in behind rvp, they make the same runs so it gets congested and rooney never makes himself available to the CM's as much as before, for whatever reason. Need to alternate between rooney/rvp for ST position and fit nani januzaj and kagawa in somehow i imagine we would not struggle to create chances with them.

But then judging on history, we wont see kagawa for another 3 months.
 

veryfatchocobo

New member
Hopefully he showed what he can do against Sociedad, we cant keep playing rooney in behind rvp, they make the same runs so it gets congested and rooney never makes himself available to the CM's as much as before, for whatever reason. Need to alternate between rooney/rvp for ST position and fit nani januzaj and kagawa in somehow i imagine we would not struggle to create chances with them.

But then judging on history, we wont see kagawa for another 3 months.
Well....... Rooney and RVP combo worked great with SAF. You also have to consider that Kagawa is a Spanish type player, so he's going to succeed against any team that doesn't play the English way. If Man U keep the ball on the ground, he's by far their best player with the ball. However, that ball stays in the air in EPL games, and Moyes will always prefer his traditional wingers over "false" wingers. Also, Man U don't like making plays in the middle of the field. I'd be excited if he will fit Kagawa in that playmaking role which he obviously deserves though, but obviously Rooney is better for Man U in that position. He also tends to be timid without the ball and obviously Man U don't keep it too often.

Speaking on Kagawa, I really think Barcelona should try their best to snatch him especially considering Moyes sees no value in him. He'd by far be the cheapest and most effective midfielder we can get in the immediate and long-term future. While his favorite position is behind the striker atm, his abilities suit that of a midfield (some sort of "developing" country development process for players end weird like that). Most teams use a flat midfield requiring two CM/DMs that can tackle, but obviously Barcelona uses a 3-man midfield system that needs only one DM and two forward pressers in the midfield off the ball. Kagawa will not only succeed as a CM or even as a False 9 in our 4-3-3, he'd absolutely tear apart teams, too...... as long as he comes out of his timid shell. He has the vision, mentality of always keeping the ball, finesse with the ball, and also has experience with a high pressing team in Borussia Dortmund. Xavi's clock is ticking, and Cesc and Iniesta can't be the only 2 great midfielders on the team in the future. As long as teams will give him the ball and trust in his playstyle like in Borussia Dortund, he'll succeed in any ground-oriented team. Barcelona is the perfect candidate for his style. You guys can tell me I'm massively overrate him, but I believe if he comes to a team that appreciates his skillsets, he will be considered a worldclass player near or at the level of our current midfiled. We should try to snatch him before Borussia Dortmund buy him back.
 

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