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zanela

Senior Member
Ramos wouldn't start ahead of Masche.

Not definitive. So far Piqué's not had a dependable partner outside masch, or one who can challenge the latter. Piqué-Ramos is first choice for La Roja, and they complement well each other. I don't see why a manager wouldn't want to go with it. As pure defenders there isn't much to separate them, except Ramos is aerially superior to masch, an area Barca can further strengthen.

Anyway, this is the Bartra thread. :bartra:
 

Morten

Senior Member
Not definitive. So far Piqué's not had a dependable partner outside masch, or one who can challenge the latter. Piqué-Ramos is first choice for La Roja, and they complement well each other. I don't see why a manager wouldn't want to go with it. As pure defenders there isn't much to separate them, except Ramos is aerially superior to masch, an area Barca can further strengthen.

Anyway, this is the Bartra thread. :bartra:

Ramos is very similiar to Pique, except for the major fact that he cant keep his fecking head cool whatsoever. I wouldnt worry if you got him, he can be such a liability at times. Monster wages is also a factor.
 

zanela

Senior Member
Ramos is very similiar to Pique, except for the major fact that he cant keep his fecking head cool whatsoever. I wouldnt worry if you got him, he can be such a liability at times. Monster wages is also a factor.

It seems to have really disturbed you. :lol:

If he can't keep his head cool, we then switch to masch. In any case, GL with your Bartra-Pepe defensive pairing. :coffee:
 

Alik

Moderator
Ramos is very similiar to Pique, except for the major fact that he cant keep his fecking head cool whatsoever. I wouldnt worry if you got him, he can be such a liability at times. Monster wages is also a factor.

Players tend to calm down after moving to Barca though.
 

Morten

Senior Member
It seems to have really disturbed you. :lol:

If he can't keep his head cool, we then switch to masch. In any case, GL with your Bartra-Pepe defensive pairing. :coffee:

Varane - Pepe for the most part. You can keep Batra and get Ramos on monster wages at the same time, deal?
 

Stric

New member
I can't agree with most of what's been said recently about him. Yes, he's been bad the whole preseason, including tonight, there's no question about that. But posters here really tend to blow things out of proportion. Suddenly many people are saying how Bartra was always this horrible. I can absolutely understand that there are legit reasons for thinking he's not good enough for Barca and that many people think so in general, but in all honesty, I think everyone can agree that he wasn't this bad last season or any season before that. This is not his actual level. You don't just permanently turn shit overnight. I'm not saying he was ever Maldini, but he was much better than he is now, and he had plenty very good games. In fact, if you rewind to about this time or maybe a bit later last year, there were many people calling for Bartra playing ahead of Mascherano. Anyway, all I'm saying is, it's fine to be realistic and say that he's been absolute shit in the last month or so, (and that he's had bad performances in the past), but let's not act like he's always been this shitty and that he'll continue to be this shitty forever. He's had more than enough good games to be sure that they weren't just luck, and that this isn't his natural state. It's most likely form, complacence (hint: he's one of the youngest guys in a treble winning team), or whatever else. Hopefully it's temporary. Hell, we got the best possible example in our own squad. Pique anyone? Shit, then very good for a short while, then horrible for a long while, then absolutely world class.
 

footyfan

Calma, calma
Varane - Pepe for the most part. You can keep Batra and get Ramos on monster wages at the same time, deal?

As if Perez will say no to these dreamy eyes

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jamrock

Senior Member
I can't agree with most of what's been said recently about him. Yes, he's been bad the whole preseason, including tonight, there's no question about that. But posters here really tend to blow things out of proportion. Suddenly many people are saying how Bartra was always this horrible. I can absolutely understand that there are legit reasons for thinking he's not good enough for Barca and that many people think so in general, but in all honesty, I think everyone can agree that he wasn't this bad last season or any season before that. This is not his actual level. You don't just permanently turn shit overnight. I'm not saying he was ever Maldini, but he was much better than he is now, and he had plenty very good games. In fact, if you rewind to about this time or maybe a bit later last year, there were many people calling for Bartra playing ahead of Mascherano. Anyway, all I'm saying is, it's fine to be realistic and say that he's been absolute shit in the last month or so, (and that he's had bad performances in the past), but let's not act like he's always been this shitty and that he'll continue to be this shitty forever. He's had more than enough good games to be sure that they weren't just luck, and that this isn't his natural state. It's most likely form, complacence (hint: he's one of the youngest guys in a treble winning team), or whatever else. Hopefully it's temporary. Hell, we got the best possible example in our own squad. Pique anyone? Shit, then very good for a short while, then horrible for a long while, then absolutely world class.
Finally someone with a bit of rationality
 

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