Marc Bartra

God Serena

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It took Mathieu 15 minutes to turn 2-0 to 2-2 at home against Deportivo. Bartra started against them away from home and shut them down and scored a goal.

:coffee:
 
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Jamie Cal

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He made quite a few mistakes and look really shaky when the game was at 0-0/0-1, but I can't fault him since he's hardly played and has been shown no confidence. He was making some big tackles, but his positioning and blocking on some instances was awful.
 

BBZ8800

Senior Member
He made quite a few mistakes and look really shaky when the game was at 0-0/0-1, but I can't fault him since he's hardly played and has been shown no confidence. He was making some big tackles, but his positioning and blocking on some instances was awful.

Yes.

He has been good later when the result was 2:0, 3:0, 4:0, 5:0, 6:0, 7:0, 8:0.

But at 1:0 he was scared, slightly all over the place as always, I was always afraid when the opponents attacked somewhere around him, and in that one action where he made a tackle in the end (and people on chat said how he made a great tackle), he made 2 horrible mistakes in that action which led to a huge chance for Deportivo for 1:1.

First he passed the ball or made a poor clearance and gave the ball right into a feet of a Deportivo's player at 11-12 meters from our goal.
Deportivo's player then tried a shot, it was blocked by someone (if I remember), then some other Deportivo's player crossed the ball to a place around 6-7 meters from our goal line, Bartra totally missed the ball (failed clearance, horrible reaction), and then the ball got to the Deportivo's player who was alone with Bravo in 1 vs 1, and then when Deportivo's player tried to dribble a keeper and since he hogged the ball for too long, Bartra got back and finally made (a good/brave) tackle.

He was extremely shaky until 2:0.
After that he was good.

But as said before about Bartra, he USUALLY is GOOD at home matches, when we are winning 5:0 and similar, and when in the defense we have 4 players versus 1-2 opponent's players who rarely get into our half.
He is, and always was good enough for small matches at Camp Nou which will end with 5:0 or 5:1, or for away matches when we finally lead 4:0 and similar.

His problem always were 0:0 matches when the pressure is on, or any match against a stronger opponent like Atletico, Real, Chelsea etc.
In those matches, more or less, Bartra ALWAYS makes at least one or two horrible mistakes after which we concede a goal.

It was a preseason, but once again, he always looks like a poor defender against better opponents:

Passion is there, he loves the club, he can do some good passes, sometimes he can score.
But in the defense, there haven't been too many changes in the last 2-3-4 years in terms of his quality of defending against any stronger or semi-decent team on away matches, when the score is 0:0, when the pressure is on, or when the opponents attack us with more than 1-2 players (unlike in Nou Camp matches where he usually plays and when our defense always play in 4 versus 1 or 4 versus 2 actions against usually very defensive and afraid-to-attack bottom table teams).
 
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Alik

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But as said before about Bartra, he USUALLY is GOOD at home matches, when we are winning 5:0 and similar, and when in the defense we have 4 players versus 1-2 opponent's players who rarely get into our half.
He is, and always was good enough for small matches at Camp Nou which will end with 5:0 or 5:1, or for away matches when we finally lead 4:0 and similar.

His problem always were 0:0 matches when the pressure is on, or any match against a stronger opponent like Atletico, Real, Chelsea etc.
In those matches, more or less, Bartra ALWAYS makes at least one or two horrible mistakes after which we concede a goal.

If that's an accurate description of Bartra then it should have been fine to keep him as a backup as the main defenders should technically be playing all the difficult away matches anyway as long they are fit. Of course another good centre back is necessary in the case there is an injury, in which case there is Mathieu. Vermaelen was proven to be just a useless signing.
 

Barcaman

Administrator
Staff member
Well, if Bartra is good enough to play vs. Depor away, he is perfectly capable of playing half of our matches.

In conclusion, Bartra deserved more minutes.
 

BarçaBarça

New member
He played a great game - but lets not get carried away - he still should be out this summer, IMO. I'm glad for him that he got a goal like that and I love his dedication and would like more players like him, but he just is not good enough to be trusted when it matters. This game proves that Lucho could have played him more this season, I agree, especially strange that he trusts Vermaelen over him.

The goal was also good for his value, though :bartomeu:
 

George_Costanza

Active member
He had a good game but most of you who want him to play more would crucify if he makes few mistakes in the next game. The point is he needs more playing time and expected to make some mistakes as he is still developing.

Lucho should've played him more earlier against lower-mid table teams.
 
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Jamie Cal

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Agreed with all of that. There was 2 crosses came in the space of a minute (I think the 84th) were he totally flunked the block/clearance. But the only tbf, the whole team was in cruise control at that point.

I'd still rather him get minutes than Verm. I think splitting minutes between the 2 has done neither any good, especially since we've been mostly injury free at CB all year.
 

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