Martin Caceres

TiTi

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For me he is a garbage player... he can't even pass.. he's fast but he don't have technique.
 

Quash

Ricky Martin clone
Now we're linked with Dmytro (there you go lads), I'd be happy to see him at Juve tbh. As long as we make up a nice amount of cash in return. I was really optimistic for him the whole season but he proved something of a flop.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
Now we're linked with Dmytro (there you go lads), I'd be happy to see him at Juve tbh. As long as we make up a nice amount of cash in return. I was really optimistic for him the whole season but he proved something of a flop.

I don't think we should sell or loan with option to buy. We should just loan him out and see how it goes. Our board/president/coach could not have made that many bad buys - at least :)lol:) one of them must be good but haven't got enough time on the pitch. But I'd put my money on Caceres and not Hleb, Hleb is just not going to work ever in Barca imo. And we should sell Guddy to, he's just not contributing to the team. He makes 2-3 brilliant things a month and than nothing...
Back to Caceres. When Marquez retires or if Milito doesn't perform after his injury - we still have Caceres that hopefully has improved after his loan at Juve or whatever club he goes to.
 
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Mido1

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The biggest problem with Cáceres is that he never thinks. He is just one of those players that have the physical ability ( more like Marchena from Valancia ) but no brain at all. Such players will never be good at Barcelona simply for the fact that we are an attacking team. Each defender has a lot of responsibility when you compare them to other teams where the midfield help their D. Pique might not be faster than Martin, however, the only reason he became a star is the fact that he thinks before making any move. Compare Pique, Marques and Pyoul and you will see one thing in common. Few mistakes, a lot of clean tackles and the ability to build up offence. All of those are things that Caceres lacks. I say loan him and try to sell him for the least loss possible.
 

ZenI

Professor Balthazar
The biggest problem with Cáceres is that he never thinks. He is just one of those players that have the physical ability ( more like Marchena from Valancia ) but no brain at all. Such players will never be good at Barcelona simply for the fact that we are an attacking team. Each defender has a lot of responsibility when you compare them to other teams where the midfield help their D. Pique might not be faster than Martin, however, the only reason he became a star is the fact that he thinks before making any move. Compare Pique, Marques and Pyoul and you will see one thing in common. Few mistakes, a lot of clean tackles and the ability to build up offence. All of those are things that Caceres lacks. I say loan him and try to sell him for the least loss possible.

Marquez makes many mistakes, bad tackles, pulling shirts etc that more and more often puts us in trouble. Don't get me wrong, I really like the guy and he makes some brilliant passes and crosses. But Pep is looking for a new CB for a reason - Marquez doesn't feel all that safe tbh, and I'd rather see Puyol as backup for CB and RB instead of being our first choice CB. But we do rotate our CB's often, so all of them get to play (besides Caceres)
 
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Snyde

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The biggest problem with Cáceres is that he never thinks. He is just one of those players that have the physical ability ( more like Marchena from Valancia ) but no brain at all. Such players will never be good at Barcelona simply for the fact that we are an attacking team. Each defender has a lot of responsibility when you compare them to other teams where the midfield help their D. Pique might not be faster than Martin, however, the only reason he became a star is the fact that he thinks before making any move. Compare Pique, Marques and Pyoul and you will see one thing in common. Few mistakes, a lot of clean tackles and the ability to build up offence. All of those are things that Caceres lacks. I say loan him and try to sell him for the least loss possible.
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Mido1

Guest
Marquez makes many mistakes, bad tackles, pulling shirts etc that more and more often puts us in trouble. Don't get me wrong, I really like the guy and he makes some brilliant passes and crosses. But Pep is looking for a new CB for a reason - Marquez doesn't feel all that safe tbh, and I'd rather see Puyol as backup for CB and RB instead of being our first choice CB. But we do rotate our CB's often, so all of them get to play (besides Caceres)

I might agree with you that he makes foolish mistakes. But when you look at his performance overall, you can see that he is a step ahead of the game ( reading the strikers play ). Caseras just charges on the striker and throw the axe on the ball :p . I also like Marques and I agree with you about rotating.

I feel the reason Pep is trying to get a new CB is the fact that both Marques and Pyoul are getting old ( 30+/yr). With Barcelona play style, it is not easy to find a defender who fits our tactics. Therefore, it is better to start looking from now rather than wait and risk a season or two. ( The intention of bringing Caseras was to use him as a replacement for Pyoul in the future, you can see that he has the same energy, but he lacked the brains and didn't even learn at all in his one year at the team.)

We also got Henrequi as a back up, and it seems that he has the ability to build up an offensive play. I think that Pep will test him this year but he will be our last CB resort and only use him in the Copa. >> Again, he is a young player just like Caseras and Chigrinsky who is 21 if am not wrong. ( I got the name from google, I think we should call him variable x from now on to make it easy :p ...

Regarding variable X :D , It seems the reason we are getting him is the fact that he is tall and will be a good player in rotation instead of waiting for Gabi Millito ( I don't think he'll ever come back and play as good as he used to be ) I assume that we can finish the deal for a price of 15-20 millions.

Thanks for your reply :)
 
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barcafanatic

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caceres takes wayyyy to long to pass the ball nd loses it all lot havin possesion of the ball is goin to be very important this season:flagvl8:
 
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Mido1

Guest
Why Pep doesn't like Martin, check this video and you'll see. If some one fluent in spanish, will he tell me exactly what he says ?

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Mido1

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It's not because of this little exercise that he doesn't like him.

I know, I was just trying to point out the small things ( this video is from the Wimbly cup this year and it seems that Caseras still have problems adapting to the team tactics. He spent a year with Barca and still can't figure it out.
 

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