Mavericky Puig

[raskolnikov]

Although I think he?s a good player and deserves more minutes , I cant bite the fact that he looks real sneaky to me. I can see why Koeman could be on odds with him. For instance that handshake for Mingueza after the substitution and quickly looks at the ground after doing it as if nobody should know. Always when he?s at the substitution couch he talks with his hand on his mouth and if the camera spots him he sits straight again. Always checking if the camera sees it

Like i said I probably would understand if this the case because he deserves more but it could also be like Koeman don?t trust him with being a leak

Feels like your reaching with the personality assumptions.

 

[Horatio]

Although I think he?s a good player and deserves more minutes , I cant bite the fact that he looks real sneaky to me. I can see why Koeman could be on odds with him. For instance that handshake for Mingueza after the substitution and quickly looks at the ground after doing it as if nobody should know. Always when he?s at the substitution couch he talks with his hand on his mouth and if the camera spots him he sits straight again. Always checking if the camera sees it

Like i said I probably would understand if this the case because he deserves more but it could also be like Koeman don?t trust him with being a leak

Do you post on voetbalzone? Found a comment there very close to this one.

 

[Gnidrologist]

Against Getafe this was absolutely perfectest of perfect opportunities to put him on for tactical reasons, when we were 3-1 ahead. Team was visibly stale in attack and ball control, Pedri did fuck all and looked gassed. Basically the rare situation, when Puig would improve team even under Komean's system. But no. Better bring on Trincao and change your whole back line that only fucks up hings even more. Guess Puig's been real annoyance to Koeman. There's no other way to explain his absurd substitution politics.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

I can see why koeman finds him annoying. You just need to look at Puig acting cringe and his bitch like tendencies. Koeman on the other hand has been a no nonsense guy all his career.

IF koemans treatmen of Puig results in a much darker puig, much like Anaken skywalker, we will all be winners

 

[Bobo32]

Against Getafe this was absolutely perfectest of perfect opportunities to put him on for tactical reasons, when we were 3-1 ahead. Team was visibly stale in attack and ball control, Pedri did fuck all and looked gassed. Basically the rare situation, when Puig would improve team even under Komean's system. But no. Better bring on Trincao and change your whole back line that only fucks up hings even more. Guess Puig's been real annoyance to Koeman. There's no other way to explain his absurd substitution politics.

But this was after he left him out of the squad for a second keeper... I'd be surprised to see more minutes for Puig, Pjanic, Firpo under Koeman.
Do you not think that Puig has improved the team in his substitutions under Koeman before? Literally every single time, though I agree the system isn't best suited for him, and that Getafe would be another perfect moment to put him on, if only to rest Pedri.
That Koeman has a problem with Puig has been very clear from the start.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

At some point he needs to do whats best for his career. I mean he is getting dropped for third keeper in the cup finals.

Where is his pride? Go out to some other team on loan and prove the manager wrong.

 

[Bobo32]

At some point he needs to do whats best for his career. I mean he is getting dropped for third keeper in the cup finals.

Where is his pride? Go out to some other team on loan and prove the manager wrong.

He had two windows to go on loan:
-Either in summer before Koeman even arrived, or after Koeman told him to go. He decided to stay and try to convince Koeman. He convinced pretty much everone but Koeman.
-Or in winter, when Koemans future was very uncertain, and with a new president arriving. He decided to stay and wait, while training with the best players in the world...

It is really a shame a player like him didn't play games for a year at this age.
But I think it's also a shame to see so many "Barcelona fans" blame the player who stays for one year, doesn't moan, plays well every little chance he gets, doesn't earn a lot. What is the problem?
Of course he can't stay like this forever, but he is handling the situation extremely professionally, and to Barcelonas benefit.

 

[JerseyAddict]

[MENTION=29755]Bobo32[/MENTION]

Good post.

 

[Joan]

He had two windows to go on loan:
-Either in summer before Koeman even arrived, or after Koeman told him to go. He decided to stay and try to convince Koeman. He convinced pretty much everone but Koeman.
-Or in winter, when Koemans future was very uncertain, and with a new president arriving. He decided to stay and wait, while training with the best players in the world...

It is really a shame a player like him didn't play games for a year at this age.
But I think it's also a shame to see so many "Barcelona fans" blame the player who stays for one year, doesn't moan, plays well every little chance he gets, doesn't earn a lot. What is the problem?
Of course he can't stay like this forever, but he is handling the situation extremely professionally, and to Barcelonas benefit.

So, he was waiting for Koeman to get sacked as his problem is obviously with Koeman? While no other manager has trusted him in his senior career (not even the nt youth coaches) bar Setien who also dropped him in the end. What hubris of Puig and you to think so

Puig is yet to prove himself or convince anyone except his loyal online fangirls and fanboys.

 

[vegitot]

Him staying without playing doesn't damage club but himself. Club will bring the loan option soon and he needs to take it seriously. Unless he is sastified with being a bench option only.

 

[fergus90]

This thread is basically an ongoing battle between those who really rate him and those who don't at all on a regular basis

He's certainly done enough to convince me he deserves more playtime than he gets. He's definitely far from the finished article no doubt but he has much more use than he's getting. Plus it's good to have players of different profiles in the squad. Not every player needs to be developed with the view he's the starter for the next 'x' amount of years.

I'd rather have some homegrown players with passion and desire to play for the club in the squad than blow 30-40 million on dud transfers that get shipped out two years later. Save the money for players that actually improve the first XI.

 

[JohnN]

I think koeman sees him as "too risky" to throw in a game like this. Pedri is calm and composed.
Puig always seems really close to making a mistake even though he gets away with it in the end.
As far as attacking intent, he is really good with great vision, but looks like a liability defensively.

 

[Porque]

But then we could play him in a less risky position. Trincao is out of form and hardly ever is good from the bench.

PUIG could come on in a more advanced position.

At this stage Im not too bothered as I don't think we are missing out on an elite talent, but he is a player we could make use of and offer more uses that Trincao right now for example.

 

[JohnN]

Trincao was hitting some form just as the formation changed and we found our rythmh as a team, so he was unlucky and got permabenched for some time.

 

[Porque]

Yeah he had a good game just like Puig (same game right?) and then got perma-benched.

If Koeman rated Puig then there's plenty of spots he could come on in at 3-1. Psuedo attacking mid left or right like Trincao, for Griezmann as a floater, or for Pedri as our offensive mid.

But he doesn't so we're beating a dead horse here.