Mavericky Puig

vegitot

Senior Member
Umtiti is one of the best passing defenders in the world. I would have no issues with posters praising that pass. It was great. His problems are basic defending whenever pace is involved which is 90% of the time.

So what exactly is your point. Somebody praised a good pass by Puig. So what? Is this the end of the world?

That's his pass is simple and pretty much everyone would make it (you can see his pass above). Praise or not is up to everyone.
 

vegitot

Senior Member
Yes, it's not exactly Xavi and Iniesta days out there. There was an even more obvious pass than that one in the Anfield game with Messi all alone and Rakitic passed it to Alba who was pressed by 3 players.

Make that pass and it's a deadly counter and maybe a CL final in the bag.

This is like somebody arguing about the color of a car, and one guy says it's teal, which is more green than blue, and we have several dudes jumping in outraged because to them it's more blue than green, making it turquoise.

Of course, then we have someone like JamDav who says that after getting another look it's neither teal nor turquoise, it's straight-up blue.

Or if Barca didn't waste 3-4 big chances to finish the tie...
And you compare a pre season game to a UCL semi final night at Anfield??? Against best Liverpool team???
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
Yes, it's not exactly Xavi and Iniesta days out there. There was an even more obvious pass than that one in the Anfield game with Messi all alone and Rakitic passed it to Alba who was poor guy pressed by 3 players.

Make that pass and it's a deadly counter and maybe a CL final in the bag.

To continue with Pep: he speaks about his biggest duty being to convince his players of the importance of the small things.
Here is one case of that: Puig could've easily passed to Comas there, it would be the obvious safe continuation, and no one would mind.
It was a pretty obvious pass to make though, and I would notice if he had missed it. I also notice that his first touch was aimed at first being able to pass more vertically, if it was possible.
Most of the time, making the correct pass doesn't lead to a goal - but I think it's a bit strange that so few here see instinctively when a pass is the right one to make or not, or when an opportunity is missed, after having watched so many games with Xavi and Iniesta.
 

JohnN

Senior Member
Didn't watch the game. If the pass discussed in the last 10 pages is that shown in the gif a couple of posts above, I don't even know where to begin. It's a standard pass almost every professional footballer should be able to pull off. Most semi professionals should be able to pull off also. Puig does have some swift forward passes in him but this is not a good example. We don't need to over hype anything to prove someone's worth. If he is good enough he will play. If he is not he will sit on the bench.
 

Bobo32

Senior Member
Didn't watch the game. If the pass discussed in the last 10 pages is that shown in the gif a couple of posts above, I don't even know where to begin. It's a standard pass almost every professional footballer should be able to pull off. Most semi professionals should be able to pull off also. Puig does have some swift forward passes in him but this is not a good example. We don't need to over hype anything to prove someone's worth. If he is good enough he will play. If he is not he will sit on the bench.

I'd think anyone should be able to see the situation there, where 2 sick users spammed this thread after a nice pass by Puig was praised en passant.
He linked up well in general yesterday, would be nice to see a compilation of his game but can't find one.
 

Porque

Senior Member
I'm presuming Roberto plays in the guy on the right straight after.

It's a nice pass but not worth the risk. Better to pass to the CB who would then ah in the right midfield placed player in the same amount of moves.

But anyways, Puig played it because he has the ability to do so. So fair enough on that.
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
Didn't watch the game. If the pass discussed in the last 10 pages is that shown in the gif a couple of posts above, I don't even know where to begin. It's a standard pass almost every professional footballer should be able to pull off. Most semi professionals should be able to pull off also. Puig does have some swift forward passes in him but this is not a good example. We don't need to over hype anything to prove someone's worth. If he is good enough he will play. If he is not he will sit on the bench.

for the fifth time or something, not a single person in this thread has claimed that the pass was particularly difficult. it was mentioned as one example of how his passing temperament led to attacking momentum as a riposte to someone claiming that 'Puig did absolutely nothing'.
 

JohnN

Senior Member
for the fifth time or something, not a single person in this thread has claimed that the pass was particularly difficult. it was mentioned as one example of how his passing temperament led to attacking momentum as a riposte to someone claiming that 'Puig did absolutely nothing'.

Actually you specifically said and I quote:
"no-one else on our team makes that pass to Roberto that led to our goal." I understand you went a bit overboard with the statement to counter those who say he did nothing.
My comment is about the discussion this statement has ignited. If it was about another player no one would ever care, but this thread is pure meme.
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
Actually you specifically said and I quote:
"no-one else on our team makes that pass to Roberto that led to our goal." I understand you went a bit overboard with the statement to counter those who say he did nothing.
My comment is about the discussion this statement has ignited. If it was about another player no one would ever care, but this thread is pure meme.

surely you understand that there is a difference between something being 'spectacular' or 'difficult to pull off' and being something that only few people do, the latter being characterized by a certain temperament, style or disposition of the player in question and NOT ability.
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
there are passes that only frenkie makes, same with busquets, same with xavi. those decisions harmonize with the way they see the game, their habitual inclinations, their way of moving on the pitch. some deserve recognition for their merit. doesn't mean that they're particularly difficult to pull off if another player were given the request.
 

BusiTheKing

Senior Member
the way some people understand football on here is akin to playing fifa or something. a player receives the ball and they think, now he can chose between pass a) b) and c). that's not really how it works is it. the paths that are open are i constant dialogue with your touch, your body language, your signalling of intention, your acceleration, your spatial nagivation. each player moves differently about the field and that fosters different passing patterns. puig has an angular, erratic style of movement and that affords him certain options that might not be open to the more sensible, gliding style of possession.
 

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