Memphis Depay

[Messigician]

Birdy and his expected goals stats lmfao

 

[Messigician]

Bobo Puig

Bbz Alpha males + Coutinho

Devils Dembele

Kingleo Messi

Serghei Setien

Have I missed any?

 

[Respekt_III]

Horatio koeman
Messigician Neymar
Zidane82 busquets
Bobo busquets, bob
Laplacian Mbappe

 

[Horatio]

Fati_Future_Balon d'Or Rassvet

 

[Bobo32]

Only about the above:
No I never made a U turn
That's simply how you (mis)understood me for the n-th time...

I called out people saying that Dembele's header against Atleti is a 'clear-cut' chance that anyone should convert, when most models had it at 0.1 xG, which is not super low but never a clear-cut chance either
Then later, I explained to people how they should interpret the xG numbers, in particular what it means for a shot to be <0.1, what it means to me >0.1 and <0.35, what it means >0.35
And in particular, I broke chances into those groups, with the intent to make people understand probabilities, and things like:
Not to expect to see xG of 1 (which they will never) see to say it's a clear goal.
Empty net without the GK does not give xG of 1 in any model, but mostly 0.8-0.9 -> that's the highest number you can see about any attempt
Or things like comparing actual G to total xG over a whole season, which sometimes gives a distorted picture if you don't break all the attempts down into groups like the ones above.

That's all what I said.
Where exactly you see in that a U-turn, I cannot really tell

PS: About the rest and your previous posts on xT and Depay,
I will complile a longer answer tomorrow or one of the next days

IIRC the number was something like 0,27, and most thought that it was obviously too low for the chance. You said it was not possible to argue, as it was "science" or something like that.
Then you later made some jaw dropping remark in a discussion with me, where you relativized the xG number and said that a certain type of xG number was wrong by a factor of 5 or something like that. If you don't remember, maybe I'll try to find the post for you.
It is of course true that many underrate the possibility to miss from a lot of chances in football, but you argued very strangely from two sides regarding the xG. The number is of course often (always) wrong in the single case, but never by such a high factor.

It is at the same time very easy and very hard to score a goal in football, and a single game is decided on pure chance most of the time. It is a high variance game but as the saying goes, it all gets fair over a season.
Goals over a season is a good representation, and xG over a season is also a fairly good representation. xG is made in order to predict goals over time, and could be seen as a tool to get away from the inherent variance of the game a little.

Ok compile your answer, and please think it through. I would love to learn something or be proven wrong for a change, and I would also love to see you admit you understood something incorrectly for a change. Don't focus yet again on the difference in preferences for high/low risk, but stick to the facts.

 

[Joan]

A user didn't care how young he was, but he was 19 in 2013. Writing "Hala Madrid" as a dutch person when you are 19 years old (and play professionally) is almost as embarrassing as writing "I love you" to a woman you never met.

Why would it be embarrassing? He's a fan. So what? You're a Madridista all your life, get a football-related job and all of a sudden, you're not?

 

[Bobo32]

Why would it be embarrassing? He's a fan. So what? You're a Madridista all your life, get a football-related job and all of a sudden, you're not?

Being a "fan" is one thing, writing "Hala Madrid" or "Visca Barca" when you are an adult living in another country, not speaking the language, maybe didn't even watch any game live, is embarrassing in itself, and when you are almost playing at the same level yourself it only adds to it a bit.

 

[Joan]

Being a "fan" is one thing, writing "Hala Madrid" or "Visca Barca" when you are an adult living in another country, not speaking the language, maybe didn't even watch any game live, is embarrassing in itself, and when you are almost playing at the same level yourself it only adds to it a bit.

Visca Barca (or Hala Madrid) is what Barca (or Real) fans write and say. Some here do too. Nothing embarrassing about that. Clubs exist so folks follow, watch and support them.

Being local is not a requirement for some time now.

Think you're just trying to look at it from above, while it's completely normal.

 

[Catta]

Bobo being the clueless idiot like always. Trying to find new reasons to shit on players he doesnt like. Ignoring the good things they do and focusing only on negatives, while at the same time praising terrorists Busi, Pique and ter Stegen.

 

[Bobo32]

Visca Barca (or Hala Madrid) is what Barca (or Real) fans write and say. Some here do too. Nothing embarrassing about that. Clubs exist so folks follow, watch and support them.

Being local is not a requirement for some time now.

Think you're just trying to look at it from above, while it's completely normal.

I love you is what people in love say. Some here do too. etc etc...
I think it looks embarrassing, but it is in line with how Depay presents himself otherwise too.
A foreign user writing this here unironically is also embarrassing, but if it is a young impressionable person who maybe didn't play himself, it is less so.

 

[Joan]

I love you is what people in love say. Some here do too. etc etc...
I think it looks embarrassing, but it is in line with how Depay presents himself otherwise too.
A foreign user writing this here unironically is also embarrassing, but if it is a young impressionable person who maybe didn't play himself, it is less so.

Don't see why. You might not be, but most of the users here are Barca fans. They follow Barca, watch them (live if and when possible), cheers for them, feel happy / excited / ... when they win, sad / angry / ... when they lose. That's what clubs are for. So, looking from a fan's perspective, there's nothing embarrassing about saying Visca Barca. Cause that's what Barca fans do.

As I said, with the way football is, being local is irrelevant for ages.

 

[Bobo32]

Don't see why. You might not be, but most of the users here are Barca fans. They follow Barca, watch them (live if and when possible), cheers for them, feel happy / excited / ... when they win, sad / angry / ... when they lose. That's what clubs are for. So, looking from a fan's perspective, there's nothing embarrassing about saying Visca Barca. Cause that's what Barca fans do.

As I said, with the way football is, being local is irrelevant for ages.

I usually sing the hymn in catalan very loudly before the home games to be fair, but I wouldn't ever put myself to write "visca Barca" unironically. Certainly not on twitter, and certainly not as the only thing. It just looks bad to me, as tattooing a lion on the entire back also does. But whatever, it's taste.

I think an english speaking Barcelona fan should speak his own language and find better ways to manifest their "support" for the club.

 

[Messigician]

I usually sing the hymn in catalan very loudly before the home games

I think an english speaking Barcelona fan should speak his own language and find better ways to manifest their "support" for the club.

Says while singing Catalan hymns ok

 

[Joan]

I usually sing the hymn in catalan very loudly before the home games to be fair, but I wouldn't ever put myself to write "visca Barca" unironically. Certainly not on twitter, and certainly not as the only thing. It just looks bad to me, as tattooing a lion on the entire back also does. But whatever, it's taste.

I think an english speaking Barcelona fan should speak his own language and find better ways to manifest their "support" for the club.

I don't sing the hymn nor write Visca Barca, but I don't think any of it is embarrassing just because I don't do it or like it.

But hey, that's just me.

 

[te amo barca]

I usually sing the hymn in catalan very loudly before the home games to be fair, but I wouldn't ever put myself to write "visca Barca" unironically. Certainly not on twitter, and certainly not as the only thing. It just looks bad to me, as tattooing a lion on the entire back also does. But whatever, it's taste.

I think an english speaking Barcelona fan should speak his own language and find better ways to manifest their "support" for the club.

For many Barca fans around the world, none of Spanish, English and Catalan are their first languages. GTFO with your English-centric bullshit