Nelson Semedo

Messi983

Senior Member
Reading Neymar thread some fans would also be happy to get rid of him. Fans opinion is really the last thing club should consider when signing the players.
 

Wick

Member
Reading the comments and how happy most of them to get rid of him, I would say we should look elsewhere.

Yes, definitely trust opinion from a comments section on the internet. Should really also let them guide the club in its transfer endeavors. Christ.

Semedo had some rough moments during the summer in the Confederations Cup, but come on.. this is ridiculous.
 

George_Costanza

Active member
Yes, definitely trust opinion from a comments section on the internet. Should really also let them guide the club in its transfer endeavors. Christ.

Semedo had some rough moments during the summer in the Confederations Cup, but come on.. this is ridiculous.

I would definitely trust the opinion of Benfica fans when it comes to their own players over Roberto or Pep Segura any day like I would trust the opinion of our fans over them too when it comes to our players.
 

Wick

Member
I would definitely trust the opinion of Benfica fans when it comes to their own players over Roberto or Pep Segura any day like I would trust the opinion of our fans over them too when it comes to our players.

You are talking about Benfica fans in plural like they are representing their whole fan base. I wouldn't trust a few select Benfica fans commenting on an article about their player leaving. Fans mostly try to rationalize transfers in a positive way - a way that benefits them. Again, trusting fans over scouting reports, i.e. your own assessment is absolutely asinine.

Any professional club or franchise that listens to their fans and let their fans control or influence decisions should just dissolve. It's an embarrassment. You may not like this board, but the moment they start listening to fans like you, me and others is the moment it's over. Can't believe there are people like yourself that think fans know better than professional evaluators who do what they do for a living. Inb4 "corruption" and you missing the point entirely.
 
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George_Costanza

Active member
You are talking about Benfica fans in plural like they are representing their whole fan base. I wouldn't trust a few select Benfica fans commenting on an article about their player leaving. Fans mostly tries to rationalize transfers in a positive way. Again, trusting fans over scouting reports, i.e. your own assessment is absolutely asinine.

Any professional club or franchise that listens to their fans and let their fans control or influence decisions should just dissolves. It's an embarrassment. You may not like this board, but the moment they start listening to fans like you, me and others is the moment it's over. Can't believe there are people like yourself that thinks fans know better than professional evaluators who do what they do for a living. Inb4 "corruption" and you missing the point entirely.

Sorry but we don't live in football utopia at the moment and what you said is good theoretical but in a real world and current reality, do you think fans of this club (assuming you are a Barca fan) would buy players like Douglas, Vermaelen, Mathieu, Song, Digne, Paulinho...etc. In normal circumstances, I would assume like yourself that we have professionals who knew what this clubs needs but a reality is totally different. When the club makes one or two mistake signing, I would say this is normal and happens in all big clubs but the fact is the sporting department has signed only 1 good player the past 3 years after spending hundreds of millions. The embarrassment is a club like Barcelona can't balance revenue with expenses because of stupid signings and uncontrolled personnel costs. Unable to develop long-term strategies which eventually will lead this club to a period of decline.
 

GetIn

New member
Ter stegen, Bravo, suarez, umtiti, Rakitic, so only one of them was a good signing?

All those signings with the exception of Umtiti were signed in one window, the 14/15 summer window.

In 15/16 we were banned but still signed the flop Arda and Vidal who the jury is still out on.

16/17 window: Paco, Gomes, Digne, Umtiti, Denis. Cillissen.

This window: absolutely fuck all so far.

So he really isn't wrong about only signing one good player in 3 years if you include this year's window thus far.
 

khaled_a_d

Senior Member
All those signings with the exception of Umtiti were signed in one window, the 14/15 summer window.

In 15/16 we were banned but still signed the flop Arda and Vidal who the jury is still out on.

16/17 window: Paco, Gomes, Digne, Umtiti, Denis. Cillissen.

This window: absolutely fuck all so far.

So he really isn't wrong about only signing one good player in 3 years if you include this year's window thus far.

He said in 3 years, he is basically assuming we have one good signing between players played at most a season and half with us ? that make it horribly small sample size.
Specially when you consider that many of the players we have signed last window are promising for their role. Digne is good back up LB,Paco ended the season as very good back up no9. Cillissen is good back up GK. Umtiti is good. Gomes and Denis is disappointing but both have only one year under their belt really. Marlon is also good value
 

RIZALDINHO

Member
finally the board are using their brain by ending their interest in signing bellerin and trying to sign semedo instead he is much better player then bellerin
 

Raketa10

Senior Member
Reading the comments and how happy most of them to get rid of him, I would say we should look elsewhere.

And where is that??? Who would you buy? Some people in this forum will shit over every player we try to sign.

There is no available full back in the world right now who is great both attack wise and in defense!!!

If we need someone good in attack against small teams we can always use Vidal but against stronger opponents we need someone who is solid in defense.
 

George_Costanza

Active member
Some of the signings mentioned above have nothing to do with Barcelona's technical/sporting department which was my original argument. Suarez was the board's signing and we were lucky that Suarez had so many personal and footballing issues at the time to make the transfer possible. Rakitic had one good season so far so I won't call it a succussuful transfer knwoing that Barcelona rejected Kroos for Raki, who else? Bravo was Unzué's request, Umtiti? We have to thank Eric Abidal. The rest were all technical and sporting department months of "monitring", "watching" and "studying" and milllions spent for them to flop.
 

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