Nelson Semedo

[Arizona Scott]

They are both really not top level

I don't think neither of them will be remembered as great right backs. They should both be in their prime....

I still think Roberto could have been a "great"/solid midfielder for at team like Arsenal as CM or DM, and in Semedos case, i think he chose wrong with Barca. He could have made a name for himself somewhere else with real wingers in front of him and a rigid set-up, and if I was him, I wouldn't extend my contract. For Barca sake tho - i hope he stays. If him and Roberto can live as its now, together they are good enough for our RB position, and they are still growing as players and their peak won't be reached before they are 28-30. Also my hope is they will keep pushing each other to their limits, all tho i can't shake the feeling that semedo would thrive with regular playing time in a different club, maybe even in a PL top side. But there are no great RB on the market, so lets just stick to whats work right now.

Good post and i pretty much agree with most. I think barca is fine with both right now, ideally semedo becomes all around better and becomes the clear starter so roberto is pure a sub/utility player (one of the most versitile in the world though yes not world class in anything). However semedo has had chances and yet to prove he is clearly #1. Maybe next year--he is still young and growing in the best team in the world.

Personally i think semedo is on the best team he could be. On any other elite team he would have much better rbs than roberto to beat out so to barca is his optimal place to grow into a world class player and be part of an elite--all trophy chasing team. Sure as heck would be more difficult to beat out carvajal, walker, taa, trippier, kimmich, etc

 

[Danic]

Dont think so. Barcas system under valverde doesnt really fit him.
A real winger and a faster system/play style would fit him much more i think.

 

[Arizona Scott]

If you are a world class right back wouldn't you fit in any system? Do you think dani carvajal would struggle in a particular system or squad? I think semedo has ambitions to be world class and he clearly needs to strengthen elements to his game--playing and succeeding at barca forces most any player to grow.

 

[Cule4life]

If you are a world class right back wouldn't you fit in any system?

If that were the case signing Galacticos in every position would guarantee you trophies and there would be no need for a manager or tactics. Football isn't played on paper.

 

[Arizona Scott]

If that were the case signing Galacticos in every position would guarantee you trophies and there would be no need for a manager or tactics. Football isn't played on paper.

I understand that particularly as it comes to role players and particularly in attacking positions (trying to fit around Messi, do you use a AM, traditional target man, etc). I also understand the way of Barca with defenders (like all other Barca players) being very confident with their feet and accurate in passing. (However increasingly a demand of all the elite clubs in their starters).

That said, I believe the world class defenders pretty much can adapt within clubs systems, national systems. I don't see a club or team for instance I would not expect Carvajal or Walker or VVD or Varane or Kimmich to do well on, or to adapt to. I think Semedo is in a very good situation if he wants to be an elite right back--there are aspects to his game he needs to work on to be close to complete as a footballer, and the Barca system and players will push him to be try to be that player. Going somewhere that better utilizes his strengths but not really requiring further development might be easier and short term satisfactory but as a relatively young player (25) I doubt best for him in the long term. I am sure he doesn't have ambition to sit behind the 24 year old Cancelo in representing his country, earning the clear cut #1 RB at Barca would go a long way towards that. Personally I think his top level peak is better than Cancelo.

 

[Danic]

Take coutinho for example. Also struggles here despite neing "World class" before.
There are tons of example where a player struggles in one team and is nearly world class in another team.

 

[Arizona Scott]

Take coutinho for example. Also struggles here despite neing "World class" before.
There are tons of example where a player struggles in one team and is nearly world class in another team.

Yes I agree it really matters for midfielders and forwards and the scheme and collective players.

But what team would say a fine all around RB like Carvajal not adapt to?

I think Semedo is with the right club if he wants to be the best player he can be and win the most prestigious trophies he can and earn a place as a starter on his national team, where else do you think he should have gone to work towards achieving those things in his career?

 

[Cule4life]

But what team would say a fine all around RB like Carvajal not adapt to?

I think Semedo is with the right club if he wants to be the best player he can be and win the most prestigious trophies he can and earn a place as a starter on his national team, where else do you think he should have gone to work towards achieving those things in his career?

Carvajal is better in attacking than defending. He wouldn't nearly be as effective say in Atletico.

It also matters for defenders. Godin wouldn't be as effective in Barca.

Semedo is with the right club. But the problem is that "right club" currently has a retarded manager who is damaging the eponymous club's philosophy.

 

[Arizona Scott]

Semedo is with the right club.

Can agree without reservation to this point.

 

[Havesaks]

Carvajal is better in attacking than defending. He wouldn't nearly be as effective say in Atletico.

It also matters for defenders. Godin wouldn't be as effective in Barca.

Semedo is with the right club. But the problem is that "right club" currently has a retarded manager who is damaging the eponymous club's philosophy.

 

[serghei]

He better start today. Don't want to see Roberto playing 3 games in a week and dealing with a fully rested Martial.

 

[clemente]

The immediate difference, see you next season.

 

[Potroh]

I wish Semedo would have come on after the team was playing against 10 opponents.
It's a win, 3 points, LaLiga is almost won, nice.

But pls look at Valverde's so called tactics.
A red card in the 28th minute.
What immediate CHANGES did the coach in order to make advantage of the outnumbering? NOTHING. Nothing at all.
I guess he is the single coach out of 100 who would have done that... I mean nothing.

With Semedo (maybe with Roberto's shift to midfield) it would have been much easier and Rakitic could have taken some rest before the CL game.

 

[underoath]

Here we go again with the forum managers pushing their fanboyism agenda

 

[Arizona Scott]

I wish Semedo would have come on after the team was playing against 10 opponents.
It's a win, 3 points, LaLiga is almost won, nice.

But pls look at Valverde's so called tactics.
A red card in the 28th minute.
What immediate CHANGES did the coach in order to make advantage of the outnumbering? NOTHING. Nothing at all.
I guess he is the single coach out of 100 who would have done that... I mean nothing.

With Semedo (maybe with Roberto's shift to midfield) it would have been much easier and Rakitic could have taken some rest before the CL game.

I thought bringing him on was correct. Maybe would have done 2 of the moves sooner, but we were largely getting the good chances so i cant say ev was too far off.