Nelson Semedo

[Cule4life]

Why the fuck that Semedo needs a Dembele to excel? His performance was just OK. MU barely attack, crosses here and there nothing dangerous.

Because in football the RB and RW play off each other, to combine and stretch the opposition in order to create space and opportunities. We don't have a RW cos Messi never plays there.

 

[underoath]

Because in football the RB and RW play off each other, to combine and stretch the opposition in order to create space and opportunities. We don't have a RW cos Messi never plays there.

So because of Messi he can't excel on his game while Roberto can play fine with Messi. Ok

 

[jairzinho]

WTF, some of you are easily pleased. He's utter garbage, whenever he gets the ball he looks to always pass it backwards, he shits himself in the final third. Jordi Alba put in a Samedo performance last night actually, hence fuck all was created.

Not sure what you're yapping on about mate. Semedo did his job quite well and neutralized Rashford.

 

[Cule4life]

So because of Messi he can't excel on his game while Roberto can play fine with Messi. Ok

Semedo is a classical RB trained to play with a RW. Roberto is a non-traditional makeshift RB who brings his MF pedigree to the table which enables him to do linkup play without a proper RW. But we lose out on defensive solidness. And with Roberto we don't stretch the pitch as well as a proper RB because we have no RW and Bob tries to combine with the rest of team. The few times Semedo played with Dembele, they have shown a lot of spark.

The debate is still on what is better for the team. Semedo+Dembele/Malcom on the RW or No RW+Roberto.

 

[Potroh]

The few times Semedo played with Dembele, they have shown a lot of spark.

Obviously so.
The million $$$ question is why isn't it obvious for the folks who were supposedly watching those games...
Two fast players on the same wing can do wonders...

The debate is still on what is better for the team. Semedo+Dembele/Malcom on the RW or No RW+Roberto.

If Barca weren't presently Valverde's team, it wouldn't be a question.
I do like Roberto and his "utility player" self but at the most he is a useful midfielder, has never been a will never be a defender.
Conversely Semedo only needs a bit more confidence, which he will hardly ever get if this meaningless competition with Roberto goes on...

 

[Total-Football]

Big dick semedo !

 

[xXKonan]

I'm guessing he will be used in the tough away games while Roberto gets the home games.

 

[Danic]

Yeah, way above ur horizon i guess....

I mean what are we discussing about?
Semedo had absolut control over his right side. Guess almost 100% pass complete even under pressure. Almost zero mistakes. Guess he won all 1v1 duels(not much though).
Was more offensive as usual.
Yesterday there were even more situations were he started a run but received no ball.
Ofc he didnt do anything super special but played nearly perfect anyway.

 

[PhilS]

The RB rotation is working great. Semedo seems improved after his recent bench time.

I think Alba will get the Huesca game off, Semedo and Roberto will start at FB.

 

[underoath]

Obviously so.
The million $$$ question is why isn't it obvious for the folks who were supposedly watching those games...
Two fast players on the same wing can do wonders...



If Barca weren't presently Valverde's team, it wouldn't be a question.
I do like Roberto and his "utility player" self but at the most he is a useful midfielder, has never been a will never be a defender.
Conversely Semedo only needs a bit more confidence, which he will hardly ever get if this meaningless competition with Roberto goes on...

Alba and Neymar didn't, so being fast doesn't mean effective. RM teenager wrecked Semedo the so called good 1v1 player that MU was so afraid to attack him because he was so good. Nah, it all depends on the set up of the opponents and tactics. Semedo is not an absolute starter at his position

 

[Danic]

Alba and Neymar didn't, so being fast doesn't mean effective. RM teenager wrecked Semedo the so called good 1v1 player that MU was so afraid to attack him because he was so good. Nah, it all depends on the set up of the opponents and tactics. Semedo is not an absolute starter at his position

Maybe u should rewatch the RM match. While he had problems in 1 of 2 games with him he wasnt completely outplayed or something.

 

[xXKonan]

He would be fine as a starter for us.

Was Semedo bad in that game? Sure but even the best Fullbacks can have a bad day against a pacy winger. Hell, last week Samuel Chukwueze was dicking Alba and Lenglet like they weren't there. Semedo regularly holds his own in 1v1 duels most of the time without much fuss.

There's a reason why Valverde has often resorted to using Semedo in tough away games at RB especially in the CL while Roberto is either on the bench or gets used as an RM because even he knows Roberto is vulnerable against pacy and physical players.

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

He would be fine as a starter for us.

Was Semedo bad in that game? Sure but even the best Fullbacks can have a bad day against a pacy winger. Hell, last week Samuel Chukwueze was dicking Alba and Lenglet like they weren't there. Semedo regularly holds his own in 1v1 duels most of the time without much fuss.

There's a reason why Valverde has often resorted to using Semedo in tough away games at RB especially in the CL while Roberto is either on the bench or gets used as an RM because even he knows Roberto is vulnerable against pacy and physical players.

Semedo was good. What are you talking about?

 

[Potroh]

Semedo seems improved after his recent bench time.

No player on Earth will ever improve while sitting on the bench...
The most you can say: he is hungry for his own averment if gets the chance, but that's all.
You mix up his work, development behind the curtain and the bench (which is often described as the "electric chair" by frustrated players).

BTW, one should truly watch Semedo's bad RealM game again, because when he played against Vinicius Jr. there usually were another two players on his side, whereas the second game with Roberto was very different, Vinicius was alone, and probably he was instructed to try to cut to the middle. When Semedo faced him, he was aiming to run down to the line. Very different scenarios...

Semedo did the classical mistake with Vinicius though, trying to move too early with him, by guessing the direction that a fast player will move.
This usually happens with a pacy forward and a pacy defender. The latter moves too early and therefore can be easily beaten, whereas very often a SLOWER defender is more successful to stop him, if he does NOT want to move and remains stationary.
That's why a highly experienced (but slow) Pique is often able to stop a fast forward by doing nothing and waiting for the attacker to bang the ball into his feet...
Many defenders name it the "mouse-move", when the "mouse" rapidly moves left and right and the best the defender (the Cat) can do is: to do nothing, but blocking his path in the middle, by not following the "mouse" at all...

 

[FinBarcelonafan]

No player on Earth will ever improve while sitting on the bench...
The most you can say: he is hungry for his own averment if gets the chance, but that's all.
You mix up his work, development behind the curtain and the bench (which is often described as the "electric chair" by frustrated players).

BTW, one should truly watch Semedo's bad RealM game again, because when he played against Vinicius Jr. there usually were another two players on his side, whereas the second game with Roberto was very different, Vinicius was alone, and probably he was instructed to try to cut to the middle. When Semedo faced him, he was aiming to run down to the line. Very different scenarios...

Semedo did the classical mistake with Vinicius though, trying to move too early with him, by guessing the direction that a fast player will move.
This usually happens with a pacy forward and a pacy defender. The latter moves too early and therefore can be easily beaten, whereas very often a SLOWER defender is more successful to stop him, if he does NOT want to move and remains stationary.
That's why a highly experienced Pique is often able to stop a fast forward by doing nothing and waiting for the attacker to bang the ball into his feet...
Many defenders name it the mouse-move, when the "mouse" rapidly moves left and right and the best the defender can do is to do nothing, but blocking his path in the middle, by not following the "mouse" at all...

Good post and nice information!