Neymar Jr.

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xXKonan

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If this was the 2013-15 Neymar, it would probably work out well in our favor but this is a 27-year-old Neymar, and while he has improved quite a bit in France, But the guy suffered some bad injuries which could be chronic in his foot and his off the field issues are becoming more and more of an issue.

I would go with Cash+Coutinho and Rakitic/Malcom for Ney but that's about it.
 

Acnologia

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If this was the 2013-15 Neymar, it would probably work out well in our favor but this is a 27-year-old Neymar, and while he has improved quite a bit in France, But the guy suffered some bad injuries which could be chronic in his foot and his off the field issues are becoming more and more of an issue.

I would go with Cash+Coutinho and Rakitic/Malcom for Ney but that's about it.

What about Dembele? Why would you sell Coutinho over Dembele when coutinho has had a better Barca career for the past two seasons
 

Zidane82

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If this was the 2013-15 Neymar, it would probably work out well in our favor but this is a 27-year-old Neymar, and while he has improved quite a bit in France, But the guy suffered some bad injuries which could be chronic in his foot and his off the field issues are becoming more and more of an issue.

I would go with Cash+Coutinho and Rakitic/Malcom for Ney but that's about it.
I’m thinking Umtiti would suit both parties though as we want him gone and PSG want a CB ... plus he’s French of course
 

xXKonan

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What about Dembele? Why would you sell Coutinho over Dembele when coutinho has had a better Barca career for the past two seasons
Because Dembele can actually be far more useful to us than Coutinho.

Yeah, I don't think Coutinho has been remotely better than Dembele has. Coutinho came here and did good but this season alone he has been pretty useless in most games he played in due to his poor performances, lack of pace and questionable mentality.

To be fair it's probably a product of him not being a real LW but in truth, he doesn't fit the team while Dembele who despite his flaws, has age on his side and he's a real winger as well and has the pace. While Coutinho has none of those.
 

Acnologia

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Because Dembele can actually be far more useful to us than Coutinho.

Yeah, I don't think Coutinho has been remotely better than Dembele has. Coutinho came here and did good but this season alone he has been pretty useless in most games he played in due to his poor performances, lack of pace and questionable mentality.

To be fair it's probably a product of him not being a real LW but in truth, he doesn't fit the team while Dembele who despite his flaws, has age on his side and he's a real winger as well and has the pace. While Coutinho has none of those.
But Dembele is injury prone. The fact that he is young means that he will properly get more injuries in the future Dembele is not a natural left winger. Can you honestly tell me a match where Dembele had been great for the whole 90 minutes while playing on the left. Even in the champions league dembele hasn't really impressed. Coutonho against inter had 8 dribbles,2 key passes and 1 assist. The match I can think of when dembele impacted on the left was against PSV but even in that match he 2asnt great when he was playing.The way how it looks, it's a strong possibility of neymar comung which means even if demvele is not traded to psg, he will have to fight for his place since both Greizmann and Neymar are better than him.
 

xXKonan

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But Dembele is injury prone. The fact that he is young means that he will properly get more injuries in the future Dembele is not a natural left winger. Can you honestly tell me a match where Dembele had been great for the whole 90 minutes while playing on the left. Even in the champions league dembele hasn't really impressed. Coutonho against inter had 8 dribbles,2 key passes and 1 assist. The match I can think of when dembele impacted on the left was against PSV but even in that match he 2asnt great when he was playing.The way how it looks, it's a strong possibility of neymar comung which means even if demvele is not traded to psg, he will have to fight for his place since both Greizmann and Neymar are better than him.
Coutinho hasn't been anywhere near as good as you say he is.

Dembele has had his share of injuries but there's a big reason why Coutinho rode the bench when Dembele was actually fit. Dembele actually provided far more to the team than Coutinho has. Coutinho was bascially a passenger from October onwards and the last great match he played for a long while was his classico performance in October and went on a pretty bad run of form which lasted for months.

Dembele has brought much more to the table while Coutinho played like he was no better than Denis Suarez, a guy who cost around 150 Million euros less than he did and the guy was in the dog house. Look I was stoked for Coutinho but the truth is he hasn't been anywhere near good this season as we expected.

Dembele has his haters on here *Cough* BBZ/Total Football* but he at least brings Pace for a team that is slower than a group of old people in a retirement home.
 

Tekkers

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But Dembele is injury prone. The fact that he is young means that he will properly get more injuries in the future Dembele is not a natural left winger. Can you honestly tell me a match where Dembele had been great for the whole 90 minutes while playing on the left. Even in the champions league dembele hasn't really impressed. Coutonho against inter had 8 dribbles,2 key passes and 1 assist. The match I can think of when dembele impacted on the left was against PSV but even in that match he 2asnt great when he was playing.The way how it looks, it's a strong possibility of neymar comung which means even if demvele is not traded to psg, he will have to fight for his place since both Greizmann and Neymar are better than him.

injuring your hamstring, in dembele's case, due to the club misdiagnosing your injury and a manager rushing you back from injury (lyon game) is completely different to neymar suffering three injuries to his right foot in two years.

the guys season is pretty much always going to end in february which makes his purchasing him useless, unless the club wraps him up in plastic until the ucl knockout stages begin.

and coutinho hasn't anything since he's been here. he coasted in his first season because he cup-tied for the ucl. the second season he was forced into the starting lineup despite continually messing up and provided absolutely nothing when it mattered most. the fact that he couldn't show up against his old club liverpool shows that he's a terrible fit. he provides zero width because he has no pace and when he floats around in the middle of the field he just makes life more difficult for messi who has to deal with more defenders

coutinho should be the first one to go if either griezman or neymar come
 

Respekt_III

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But Dembele is injury prone. The fact that he is young means that he will properly get more injuries in the future Dembele is not a natural left winger. Can you honestly tell me a match where Dembele had been great for the whole 90 minutes while playing on the left. Even in the champions league dembele hasn't really impressed. Coutonho against inter had 8 dribbles,2 key passes and 1 assist. The match I can think of when dembele impacted on the left was against PSV but even in that match he 2asnt great when he was playing.The way how it looks, it's a strong possibility of neymar comung which means even if demvele is not traded to psg, he will have to fight for his place since both Greizmann and Neymar are better than him.

lol Coutinho > Dembele
either you're trolling with an alt-account, or you're a a fucking retard because all your posts have been about dembele.
 

Acnologia

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lol Coutinho > Dembele
either you're trolling with an alt-account, or you're a a fucking retard because all your posts have been about dembele.
1. I am a massive Dembele fam. The first time I ever watched was when he at rennes and scored his first hhattrick.I was so watching him develop. At Dortmund I saw him destroying Bayern in the pokal cup when he score a goal and an assist. I watched him played agaisnt Real Madrid and he was a bright spark.I watched him getting his first hattrick of assists in the champions in 2016. I watched him when he came on against RBLeipzig where he showed everyone the true meaning of pace when he destroyed two of their players and gave a beautiful assist to Aubameyang. I watched him coming on agaisnt Spain and for 15 minutes he watching past their backline. In 2017, I was at an sports bar for my birthday when both him and Mbappe were destroying England. I laughed so hard when he nutmeged Kane��������. When he scored I made a joke and said that Dembele gave my a great birthday present. Basically I have been watching Dembele for roughly 3 years. When he signed for Barcelona I figured it was the right move for him to become the best player in the world but sadly I was so wrong. Since he has been at Barcelona, Dembele has regressed so much that it made me so sad. This boy at one point was the future of French football and now he cant even start for them. I can only think of four matches when he looked liked his former self. Against Villareal,Tottenham,Levante in copa del ray second leg and Leganes. Other young players like Sane,Sancho,Mbappe are right now better than Dembele. All three of them everytime when I watched them performed fantastic. Dembele has been at Barca for two years and all now he cant get starring spot and even when he starts he plays on left which is not even his best position. If Dembele struggled to start over Coutinho, Do you really think he start over Griezmann or Neymar north of whom is world class and have contributed to over 30 goals+assists compared to Dembele's 23. The only way he can develop is by leaving to PSG and play under Tuchel where he will get full 90 minutes. Understand that I am only thinking for what's best for him so dont you dare call me a troll
 

Andrew M

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injuring your hamstring, in dembele's case, due to the club misdiagnosing your injury and a manager rushing you back from injury (lyon game) is completely different to neymar suffering three injuries to his right foot in two years.

the guys season is pretty much always going to end in february which makes his purchasing him useless, unless the club wraps him up in plastic until the ucl knockout stages begin.

and coutinho hasn't anything since he's been here. he coasted in his first season because he cup-tied for the ucl. the second season he was forced into the starting lineup despite continually messing up and provided absolutely nothing when it mattered most. the fact that he couldn't show up against his old club liverpool shows that he's a terrible fit. he provides zero width because he has no pace and when he floats around in the middle of the field he just makes life more difficult for messi who has to deal with more defenders

coutinho should be the first one to go if either griezman or neymar come

I don't think it's that different. Dembele clearly has a a vulnerable body
 

Respekt_III

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1. I am a massive Dembele fam. The first time I ever watched was when he at rennes and scored his first hhattrick.I was so watching him develop. At Dortmund I saw him destroying Bayern in the pokal cup when he score a goal and an assist. I watched him played agaisnt Real Madrid and he was a bright spark.I watched him getting his first hattrick of assists in the champions in 2016. I watched him when he came on against RBLeipzig where he showed everyone the true meaning of pace when he destroyed two of their players and gave a beautiful assist to Aubameyang. I watched him coming on agaisnt Spain and for 15 minutes he watching past their backline. In 2017, I was at an sports bar for my birthday when both him and Mbappe were destroying England. I laughed so hard when he nutmeged Kane��������. When he scored I made a joke and said that Dembele gave my a great birthday present. Basically I have been watching Dembele for roughly 3 years. When he signed for Barcelona I figured it was the right move for him to become the best player in the world but sadly I was so wrong. Since he has been at Barcelona, Dembele has regressed so much that it made me so sad. This boy at one point was the future of French football and now he cant even start for them. I can only think of four matches when he looked liked his former self. Against Villareal,Tottenham,Levante in copa del ray second leg and Leganes. Other young players like Sane,Sancho,Mbappe are right now better than Dembele. All three of them everytime when I watched them performed fantastic. Dembele has been at Barca for two years and all now he cant get starring spot and even when he starts he plays on left which is not even his best position. If Dembele struggled to start over Coutinho, Do you really think he start over Griezmann or Neymar north of whom is world class and have contributed to over 30 goals+assists compared to Dembele's 23. The only way he can develop is by leaving to PSG and play under Tuchel where he will get full 90 minutes. Understand that I am only thinking for what's best for him so dont you dare call me a troll

So you are a massive dembele fan but think coutinho has been better then dembele? Yet want him to leave for his own sake? You could of just said that dembele is great but should leave for his own personal development rather then hide behind calling out at every opportunity. Has he been what we as a fan base wanted? No but he has the potential and has been our best winger.
 

Raki13

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So you are a massive dembele fan but think coutinho has been better then dembele? Yet want him to leave for his own sake? You could of just said that dembele is great but should leave for his own personal development rather then hide behind calling out at every opportunity. Has he been what we as a fan base wanted? No but he has the potential and has been our best winger.

The whole time hes been at the club I have never seen anything of Dembele to suggest he is a great player , hes also not got any better as time goes on. Another very average player thats been lucky enough to play for the club. If we get a good offer I would sell.
 

FC B

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The whole time hes been at the club I have never seen anything of Dembele to suggest he is a great player , hes also not got any better as time goes on. Another very average player thats been lucky enough to play for the club. If we get a good offer I would sell.

Do not forget every player especially young ones need a good gifted coach in order to develop their skills and become a better player with time but under Failverde pretty much every player bar Messi underperforms or stagnates.
 

Raki13

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Do not forget every player especially young ones need a good gifted coach in order to develop their skills and become a better player with time but under Failverde pretty much every player bar Messi underperforms or stagnates.

Totally agree , but I dont see any coach making this boy better , for me he isnt good enough to be at the club , sadly like so many others.
 

FC B

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Totally agree , but I dont see any coach making this boy better , for me he isnt good enough to be at the club , sadly like so many others.

I'm convinced he'd look like a super player under Klopp, Pep and maybe under a few other true coaches.
 
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