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Leo_Messi

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The fact that you pick griezmann over dembele on the right wing is disgusting

Can you read?

If the answer to that question is yes, I suggest to actually reread the post that you quoted.

To make your life easier I have quoted the post that you quoted again.


Ronaldinho's peak occurred much earlier than Neymar's current age (27). Ronaldinho was at his best from 2002-2006. Reaching his peak (contrary to popular belief) in 2005 rather than the year after. At least individually.

Neymar is a great player, top 3 without a doubt IMO, and I do actually believe that he has at least 3-4 years left at the highest level (he could even possibly get better) but it requires a fundamental change from himself and that of his entourage. If he truly is desperate for a return and to take the mantle once Messi declines further or calls it a day.

The problem however is everything that I wrote a few days ago of negatives. Everything from how to fit him into the team with Griezmann likely arriving (almost guaranteed), Messi and Suárez going nowhere, what will happen with Dembélé, the club losing face, "club de amigos" getting further reinforced and running the show more than ever, no sports project or any long-term planning in sight, our wage bill reaching dangerous levels etc.

I would have less against a Neymar return if the useless board did more of a generational change and got rid of the likes of Suárez and Rakitic. Or if they had appointed an actual manager and not a yes-man and a "gestionario" which Valverde is. Nothing more and nothing less.

Griezmann and Neymar arriving obviously means the end of Dembélé. While it should mean the end of an almost 33 year old Suárez rather than one of the more promising attacking talents in the world in Dembélé. The misuse of that player has been criminal. Dembélé should not be parked on either the left or right but more close to the goal given his insane pace, ability to run behind the defense, him being ambipedal (a rare gift) etc. He could potentially turn into a Eto'o like footballer. The same Eto'o that started his career in Mallorca playing as a freaking right back initially. That would obviously require a top manager in the mould of Pep, Klopp, Pochettino etc. to develop that kind of talent not a clueless Valverde.

Neymar-Messi-Griezmann (Messi and Griezmann interchanging positions whenever needed, in fact all 3 could do that) with Dembélé being the first substitute of all 3, playing whenever one of the 3 would need a break and as often as possible. That would be a better solution than keeping an almost 33 year old Suárez (long past it) and selling a 22 year old Dembélé instead. Griezmann could at times play as the most offensive midfielder in front of DJ and Arthur and behind Messi with Neymar and Dembélé on the wings against weak opponents on paper at the Camp Nou. Or a 3-4-3 formation at times. Maybe not with Valverde around though. Not maybe, most certainly.

EDIT: To begin with, as written a few days ago, it makes zero sense to sign both Griezmann and Neymar. Signing one of them while getting rid of Suárez and replacing him with a Jovic or Lautaro kind of attacker (traditional number 9) would have been way better while keeping Dembélé but getting rid of Coutinho.

The thing is, he can agree everything with us, but if Nasser says no (or puts a ridiculous price on him), it's a no, because he is under a contract.

Remember the Verratti saga?...

I don't think that this "new" version of PSG with Leonardo at the helm is willing to repeat past mistakes. Nasser's public comments some weeks ago were a direct message to Neymar. They want to build a genuine team and not turn PSG into a "club de amigos" run by Neymar and Mbappé. Unfortunately our braindead board wants to copy their very successful "project" and the "club de amigos" clan has given the blessing for Neymar's return. If Neymar wants out (which looks like a given) and our board is willing to offer what PSG demands (they will once we get rid of a few players), the deal will be reached. Unless Nasser (with direct orders from the Qataris) will change his mind completely which looks unlikely as of now.

Dembélé will most likely be the sacrificial lamb that will be scarified (Coutinho leaving is a given and I don't think that there is anyone of us who will lament him leaving in particular not those of us who predicted his epic failure) and the club will come to regret it. That is my take on this fully absurd and lamentable situation at the club.

EDIT: Can people who don't speak a word of Spanish and who have no ties to BCN, Catalonia, Spain etc. stop constantly claiming that their "sources" have written x or y? It is not funny. Nobody here have any first-hand sources nor is anyone here a part of that transfer saga or any other for that matter. Just stop the comedy show and help improve the level of the forum instead.
 
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Neymessi

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Where is Jair Ventura who was claiming that him coming here was nothing but Spanish tabloid rumors with no substance and we are fools to believe he wants to come? :lol:
 

abbbs97

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Jair has gone into hiding and wont come back till September at least when the group stages of UCL begin. :lol:

That is a massive wage cut for Neymar if those reports are true.
 

Leo_Messi

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Bechler thinks Semedo could be included in any deal PSG wants.

Wrote a few days ago that I think that Semedo will leave the club this summer. There were those public comments of his where he complained of lack of consistent playing time, there is the Euro 2020 that he would want to play in and ideally as a starter, there was the Atlético interest in him, Juve being interested (rumored) once Cancelo is told to Man City and now PSG.

Well, given the sad state of the club we might as well replace Semedo with a 36 year old (past it) Alves. Since we are resigning Neymar we might as well welcome Alves back as well.:lol:
 

Newcomer

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Well.. Dani Alves is also leaving PSG :mou::alveshat::neymar:

He is not leaving. He has already left, lol !

Regarding Neymar, if Barça is talking contract with him it means they have the funds to pay for his transfer. Pini Zahavi must well know what PSG is asking, he wouldn't work if he thought Barça couldn't afford it.

From our insiders, it is always the same thing : PSG owners are fed up with Neymar and have named their price to sell him. They don't want a loss. They are hinting at Mbappé renewing with a big salary increase and a very big signing bonus.

Well, i'm disappointed because Neymar is by far the best PSG player. I can't see how they will be able to improve the team enough to compensate this loss. I mean, there are a lot of areas to improve in the team but there is only one Neymar. Barça is the perfect example because they bought Coutinho and Dembélé and they were not successes even if the jury is out for Dembélé with him being so young.

They are not telling much but PSG is following either Milinkovic Savic or Pogba for the midfield.
 

cro-man

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How is it possible to play suarez messi neymar and griezmann at once?:lol: This has to be bullshit. Dembele is also here and if the reports are true they intend to keep him.
 

FCBfan22

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How is it possible to play suarez messi neymar and griezmann at once?:lol: This has to be bullshit. Dembele is also here and if the reports are true they intend to keep him.

I still think that what is currently said in media is pure propaganda from the Neymar camp, because they know that we can't afford both Griez and him and is trying to convince us to get him, before we spend the money.

Back to the question. How to play them together? Easy. Just be a spineless coach with 0 tactical awareness.
 

MTL_Barca

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How is it possible to play suarez messi neymar and griezmann at once?:lol: This has to be bullshit. Dembele is also here and if the reports are true they intend to keep him.

_________Suarez_________
Neymar__Griezmann__Messi
___Busquets__De Jong____
Alba_Lenglet_Pique_Sergi
_______ter Stegen_______

Bartos vision :bartomeu:
 
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