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Donatello

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Those three are in the same situation as Dembele is right now as in there's a big chance those guys could end up not living up to the expectations they have.

Look dude I get you hate Dembele, but don't get ahead of yourself and claim those three are guaranteed to live up to expectations when they get older.

Anything can happen in football. VVD, Salah, came out of nowhere and became better than most youngsters who were destined to be WC. Prime R9 had everything, but still he couldn't fulfill his potential because of injuries. Great things were expected from Gotze but he failed to deliver eventually. There are numerous other examples.

You also forget the amount of space Mbappe & Sancho get, I'd like to see how they would do in Barca lineup which is slow as hell. Dembele is already marked by 1,2 players before he could even make a move, his speed gets wasted.

And also, only Sane plays on the same level as Dembele. Mbappe & Sancho play in a much easier league.
 
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Maxim4

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This has nothing to do with hate but just being honest
All three of those guys I watched playing this season and all of them are way better than Demeble. Dmebele hav regressed massively ever since his Dortmund days so it looks like he is kne will not live up to his expectations
1. Sancho this season got 12 goals and 14 assists on the league, 1 goal and 1 assist in the champions league and 1 assist in the cup. He basically have 29 goals+assists whole Demeble had 8 goals and 5 assists ssists in the league, 3 goals and 1 assists in the champions league, 1 goal against sevilla,and 2 goals and 2 assists in copa del ray which means he has 22 goals+assists so in terms of end product sancho is already miles better than dembele. Even dribbling which is dembele's best quality sancho dribble success rate is 3.3 while dembele own is 2.3. Also, if you compare dembele when he was at Dortmund, Sancho dribble success rate, goals and assists rally are better than dembele's in the league. Dembele had 6 goals and assists and had a 3.2 dribble success rate.
2. Sane for the past two seasons has been one of the best players in the premier league and one of the best singers in the world. Sane in 2017/2018 had 10 goals and 15 assists on the league while dembele had 3 goals and 6 assists that season. Even last season, Sane's stats were way better than Dembele's expect for dribbling. Sane in one match agaisnt Schalke had 3 assists and 1 goal and he also scored the same amount of goals as Mbappe. You remember the time when dembele fans were excited a our dmebele gettin over 10 dribbles against Leganes, a team that is not even in the top half of the table. The most dribbles dembele has ever got against a top team was Tottenham which was 3 while sane had 7 against the likes of liverpool and Tottenham. Also, Sane had 35 goals+assists. Even for Germany, Sane so far has scored 5 goals while dembele onyl has 2
3. Mbappe. Do I really have to tell you way Mbappe is better than dembele? Mbappe in the 2017/2018 sesson had 13 goals and 7 assists and had 7 goals +assists in the champions league. At the world cup he was one of the best players while dembele was a bench warmer. This sseaosn Mbappe scored 34 goals in the league at 20 years old. Mbappe at such a young age was pressuring Messi for the golden boot. In champions league Mbaple got 4 goals and assists and was statistically the best big chance creater in the champions league group stage. Also, for France Mbappe stats are way better than Dembele's
Dembele in Dormund was much better than Sancho.
He won a trophy for his first season and eliminated Bayern in the semifinals of the German Cup. Scorer in the final of the 7 th minute of the games.
Sancho did not win anything .0

Dembélé in Dortmund 2016-2017 is 21 assists, 6 goals in championships.
Second best passer in C1 behind Neymar.
 

xXKonan

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Says Hacienda seized Neymar's renovation bonus when he renewed with us. Guessing this is due to the ongoing tax issues.
 

Afromaticz

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This has nothing to do with hate but just being honest
All three of those guys I watched playing this season and all of them are way better than Demeble. Dmebele hav regressed massively ever since his Dortmund days so it looks like he is kne will not live up to his expectations
1. Sancho this season got 12 goals and 14 assists on the league, 1 goal and 1 assist in the champions league and 1 assist in the cup. He basically have 29 goals+assists whole Demeble had 8 goals and 5 assists ssists in the league, 3 goals and 1 assists in the champions league, 1 goal against sevilla,and 2 goals and 2 assists in copa del ray which means he has 22 goals+assists so in terms of end product sancho is already miles better than dembele. Even dribbling which is dembele's best quality sancho dribble success rate is 3.3 while dembele own is 2.3. Also, if you compare dembele when he was at Dortmund, Sancho dribble success rate, goals and assists rally are better than dembele's in the league. Dembele had 6 goals and assists and had a 3.2 dribble success rate.
2. Sane for the past two seasons has been one of the best players in the premier league and one of the best singers in the world. Sane in 2017/2018 had 10 goals and 15 assists on the league while dembele had 3 goals and 6 assists that season. Even last season, Sane's stats were way better than Dembele's expect for dribbling. Sane in one match agaisnt Schalke had 3 assists and 1 goal and he also scored the same amount of goals as Mbappe. You remember the time when dembele fans were excited a our dmebele gettin over 10 dribbles against Leganes, a team that is not even in the top half of the table. The most dribbles dembele has ever got against a top team was Tottenham which was 3 while sane had 7 against the likes of liverpool and Tottenham. Also, Sane had 35 goals+assists. Even for Germany, Sane so far has scored 5 goals while dembele onyl has 2
3. Mbappe. Do I really have to tell you way Mbappe is better than dembele? Mbappe in the 2017/2018 sesson had 13 goals and 7 assists and had 7 goals +assists in the champions league. At the world cup he was one of the best players while dembele was a bench warmer. This sseaosn Mbappe scored 34 goals in the league at 20 years old. Mbappe at such a young age was pressuring Messi for the golden boot. In champions league Mbaple got 4 goals and assists and was statistically the best big chance creater in the champions league group stage. Also, for France Mbappe stats are way better than Dembele's

Lol your obsession with Dembélé is kinda scary mate
 

Acnologia

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Dembele in Dormund was much better than Sancho.
He won a trophy for his first season and eliminated Bayern in the semifinals of the German Cup. Scorer in the final of the 7 th minute of the games.
Sancho did not win anything .0

Dembélé in Dortmund 2016-2017 is 21 assists, 6 goals in championships.
Second best passer in C1 behind Neymar.

Demeble at 19 had more experience than Sancho since he was playing in a first team in the French and was a constant start for forums the season after. Sancho wasnt a starter untill Pulisic got injured. The only trophy demebele won was the cup and the match that Dortmund got knocked out sancho was my playing. Dembele played against Bayern two times and he flopped in the second. Sancho when he first played against Bayern would had gotten two assists if Reus and Paco scored. Dembele had
5 assists but three of them was against a team in the crop stage who is not even in Europe too 5 leagues
 

Acnologia

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Look dude I'll give you my thoughts on those three+ Dembele.

Mbappe? Very good talent, but relies to much on his pace and open spaces. Arguably perhaps the worst in that regard out of the so-called top tier talents, and nowhere near the talent as a young Neymar was, and come on man this is Ligue 1, not some top tier league that he's accomplishing those things.

Sane? yeah he's good but he got eventually benched for Benardo Silva, with rumors Pep wasn't afraid to sanction a sale as he wasn't a fan of his attitude and if a coach of Pep's caliber has issues with Sane, then the guy isn't going to live up to his talent down the line.

Sancho? yeah he's good himself but I mean considering Paco Alcacer was pulling off miracles in Germany, it says more about Bundesliga than the kid himself. Special talent but we have to wait and see about him.

Dembele? has flaws no doubt, relies too much on space and his pace, often makes bad decisions and doesn't take care of his body enough. But at the same time, part of his problems is he's being hamstrung by a Coach who is nowhere near good enough for a team like ours.

What I'm saying dude is these newer generations of wingers, rely so much on athleticism to bail them out of making wrong decisions. Nowhere near as good as some of the guys such as a Young Messi, Neymar etc could do at that young age.

Mbappe at 20 stats far surpasses Neymar's at 21. Even in the champions league Mbappe is not even 21 but his stats are far better than Neymar's. Dembele relies on his pace just as much as Mbappe. Dembele had 8 goals and 5 assists on La liga last season, are you seriously telling me that Mbappe wouldn't have got more dembele. The only excuse you can make is Dembele getting injuries which further proves that since Mbappe isnt injury prone he is developing at a faster rate than demeble.
Sane. You acting as if him getting bench bu Bernando shows that he isnt better than dembele. Bernado is one of the most consistent players in the world and had a far better season than any of our players minus Messi. Sane had 35 goals+assists last seaon while not being a granted starter. Sane even for Germany scored more goals than Dembele.
Sancho is literally coming from the same league that dembele used to play in and yet you are saying that it's the Bundesliga making sancho look good. Paco when he was at Valencia was a greater striker. Even when he played for Spain in 2018, he was scoring goals and if he hadn't gotten injuries in the second half of the season, he world had been one of the best number 9s in the world
 

Maxim4

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Demeble at 19 had more experience than Sancho since he was playing in a first team in the French and was a constant start for forums the season after. Sancho wasnt a starter untill Pulisic got injured. The only trophy demebele won was the cup and the match that Dortmund got knocked out sancho was my playing. Dembele played against Bayern two times and he flopped in the second. Sancho when he first played against Bayern would had gotten two assists if Reus and Paco scored. Dembele had
5 assists but three of them was against a team in the crop stage who is not even in Europe too 5 leagues

Dembélé won the title of Rookie of the Year, more goals and more assistance, scored the winner against Bayern in the semifinal and final of Pokal. OD also won a title while your "Sancho" will not have a trophy after stifling a 10-point lead against Bayern. Keep your opinion to yourself.
 

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xXKonan

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Mbappe at 20 stats far surpasses Neymar's at 21. Even in the champions league Mbappe is not even 21 but his stats are far better than Neymar's. Dembele relies on his pace just as much as Mbappe. Dembele had 8 goals and 5 assists on La liga last season, are you seriously telling me that Mbappe wouldn't have got more dembele. The only excuse you can make is Dembele getting injuries which further proves that since Mbappe isnt injury prone he is developing at a faster rate than demeble.
Sane. You acting as if him getting bench bu Bernando shows that he isnt better than dembele. Bernado is one of the most consistent players in the world and had a far better season than any of our players minus Messi. Sane had 35 goals+assists last seaon while not being a granted starter. Sane even for Germany scored more goals than Dembele.
Sancho is literally coming from the same league that dembele used to play in and yet you are saying that it's the Bundesliga making sancho look good. Paco when he was at Valencia was a greater striker. Even when he played for Spain in 2018, he was scoring goals and if he hadn't gotten injuries in the second half of the season, he world had been one of the best number 9s in the world
Neymar was a far better prospect than Mbappe will ever be.

Mbappe's talent doesn't come anywhere near close to Neymar. Neymar came straight from Brazil and had to spend a season adapting and also suffered a couple of untimely injuries. He exploded in the 2014/15 season playing more like a Forward than as a playmaking winger and scored some crucial goals which helped get us the treble.

I give Neymar shit these days due to what happened in 2017, but there's no contest. These new aged wingers like Mbappe, Sane, Dembele, Sancho were nowhere near the talent a young Neymar was.
 

Andrew M

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Neymar was a far better prospect than Mbappe will ever be.

Mbappe's talent doesn't come anywhere near close to Neymar. Neymar came straight from Brazil and had to spend a season adapting and also suffered a couple of untimely injuries. He exploded in the 2014/15 season playing more like a Forward than as a playmaking winger and scored some crucial goals which helped get us the treble.

I give Neymar shit these days due to what happened in 2017, but there's no contest. These new aged wingers like Mbappe, Sane, Dembele, Sancho were nowhere near the talent a young Neymar was.

I disagree completely. I'd take Mbappe over Neymar all day at any age.
 

ronniecro

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dembele circlejerk even in neymars thread...eh i can't wait for season to start so we can get back to flaming valverde
 

Andrew M

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If we are talking about a 20-Year-old, Neymar, there's no contest between the two. If now? I would choose Mbappe no doubt.

I prefer Mbappe at 20 than Neymar at 20. I agree that 2014-2016 Neymar was top class, but since then I'm not impressed.
 
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