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Vilarrubi

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Bulgroz said:
Yeah, if you have to sell a player who wants to leave but no offer looks sufficient, you have to settle for a less than ideal deal. In that case, since the only 2 interested teams are offering players they don't want anymore + a very "small" sum in cash, PSG might aswell take a deal that involves the same "small" sum as a loan fee, if it means they'll get a lot more cash next season (instead of having to get overrated/old/injured players in exchange for their star player).
Think of it this way: you want to sell your car, you think it's worth 8.000 dollars. Somebody offers you either 4.000 dollars and a bag of used condoms, or 4.000 dollars now and 4.000 dollars in a year. He's the only buyer, and you really need to sell. What will you do ?

Also, I do think that those kind of deals (paying loan with a huge, mandatory option to buy) are going to be used more and more in the future. It's a great way to work your way around FFP (just like what PSG did when they got Mbappe on a loan with mandatory OTB).
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Agree with this completely.. with Neymar it looks like it's gone beyond repair for and PSG will be forced to accept a deal lower than they'd want. When the rumours started it was 300m...


[MENTION=20519]Lutece FC[/MENTION] seems to think his price will have increased since we sold him because of the market inflation..... I think based on age, injuries, broken relationship with PSG it's bound to be lower than the 220m we paid, IF he does end up coming to Barca.
 
Lutece FC

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Vilarrubi said:
Agree with this completely.. with Neymar it looks like it's gone beyond repair for and PSG will be forced to accept a deal lower than they'd want. When the rumours started it was 300m...


[MENTION=20519]Lutece FC[/MENTION] seems to think his price will have increased since we sold him because of the market inflation..... I think based on age, injuries, broken relationship with PSG it's bound to be lower than the 220m we paid.
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It's pure speculation. i don't know his price. But what i know, it's that he won't be discounted by Leonardo for sure. THere is two clubs on the tracks : Barca and Real. Both are rivals, both have money. So they will pay the price.
 
Raketa10

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Lutece FC said:
It's pure speculation. i don't know his price. But what i know, it's that he won't be discounted by Leonardo for sure. THere is two clubs on the tracks : Barca and Real. Both are rivals, both have money. So they will pay the price.
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Neither Barca nor Real have that amount right now.
 
BBZ8800

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Luftstalag14 said:
No, I don’t dispute that PSG wants to get rid of him but I am asking you, why would they accept a loan deal? Are you saying it is like 50m loan and we will have to pay 150m etc. next year to permanently buy him?

By doing us a favor I am not saying Neymar is great, I meant why would they help us get Neymar while Real Madrid offers better terms? Neymar will not object going to Real Madrid.
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Bulgroz explained above.

Basically, they have 3 options.
They would like money so that they could choose players whom they want to buy.

Options to sell are:
1. To Barca, 70m in cash plus Coutinho whom they don't need.
So they get only 70m in cash.
2. Real, 50m or 70m plus Bale.
The same story. They get a player whom they don't need and only 50-70m cash.
3. Barca: loan
50m right away and obligatory 150m next season.
So, they will get 200m from us.
That is the closest to their original wish.
The only difference is that we will pay the next summer.
 
BBZ8800

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Raketa10 said:
No he can't. If we sell Semedo we would need another RB and we don't have money for that dude. FFS we need players to cover positions it's not all about marketing. I am wiling to bet Semedo is off the table, we are not that stupid.
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I don't think that they will sell Semedo.
They will force out Cou and Raki or Vidal.

Regarding Semedo, if we would sell him, we would buy some 34 years old sub like Srna, Felipe Luis, Boateng.
That type of a deal for 2-3 millions.

Roberto a starter RB.
Granny 33 years old sub.
Wague CDR matches.
 
Jadentheman

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DonAndres said:
Neymar broke the same bone in his foot 2 years in a row. Jones fracture on the fifth metatarsal, one of the most problematic injuries because of the lack of blood flow to the area. That specific injury has ended more than 1 career in the NBA and caused massive decline in athletes across sports. Hell, look no further than Neuer who's never been even close to the same since he had it.

Now, Neymar isn't 2 meters tall or weighs 100 kilos, but that still has a huge effect on his ability to plant his foot and explode. He was at his straight up prime in his first PSG season, then got the injury. His production in the 2nd season wasn't as good, and then he got the same injury again. It's a pretty decent chance Neymar will be less athletic, MUCH more injury prone, and less productive than his prime at Barca. More likely than not, his peak has already passed.

The ankle sprains are something he's dealt with since his early years and he just has weak/skinny legs that get hacked at constantly. He definitely is a big injury liability
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I can argue he can decrease the chance of his metatarsal injury by switching up how he plays. He can’t constantly be going 1 v 1 with defenders and sudden bursts of acceleration. Instead he would need to focus on link ups and 1-2 with Alba and resident midfielders
 
Raketa10

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Since everyone is doing it... :)

So let's assume we'll sell Rafinha, Cou, Raki and buy Neymar.

------------Griezmann(Suarez)-------
---------------------Messi--------------
-----Neymar-------------------------Dembele
--------FDJ(Busi,Alena)----Arthur(Roberto,Vidal)-----
--Alba(Firpo)--Lenglet(Umtiti)--Pique(Todibo)--Semedo(Wague)
-------------------------Mats(Neto)---------------------

and Puig from B team.

In this formation Griezmann can also play at Messi position and Dembele can also play as a LW. Biggest problem here is a lack of strength in midfield.
 
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I just fucking want 1DM+2CM+3 true forwards (aka not Coutinho). These lineups with Messi as a "10" are more like extremely offensive 4-4-2s.
 
Raketa10

Raketa10

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BBZ8800 said:
I don't think that they will sell Semedo.
They will force out Cou and Raki or Vidal.

Regarding Semedo, if we would sell him, we would buy some 34 years old sub like Srna, Felipe Luis, Boateng.
That type of a deal for 2-3 millions.

Roberto a starter RB.
Granny 33 years old sub.
Wague CDR matches.
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A recipe for a disaster.
 
BBZ8800

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Neymar has an economic agreement with both Barcelona (€23m) and Real Madrid (€30m). The player prefers to wait for Barça to finalise the signing with PSG. The Catalan side offer Coutinho + €120m, PSG accept this, but the payment method is still missing. [
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Raketa10

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BBZ8800 said:
Neymar has an economic agreement with both Barcelona (€23m) and Real Madrid (€30m). The player prefers to wait for Barça to finalise the signing with PSG. The Catalan side offer Coutinho + €120m, PSG accept this, but the payment method is still missing. [
@IgnacioMiguelez
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Jesus Christ 120 + Cou :facepalm:

Lets say we sell Raki for 40m and Rafinha for 10m. We are still 70m short. How the fuck will we close the gap?
 
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