Neymar Jr.
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JohnN
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We should make an offer on the closing day of the transfer window. Coutinho + Rakitic + 10m-15m (Get that 10m-15m from Rafinha).
No money spent that way.
We don't need Neymar so badly.
We don't mind having Rakitic in the squad.
If Coutinho stays he can try to prove his worth until December. If he fails try to sell then.
PSG will be desperate to sell. If they bite, good deal. If they don't, let them and Neymar eat each other alive.
No money spent that way.
We don't need Neymar so badly.
We don't mind having Rakitic in the squad.
If Coutinho stays he can try to prove his worth until December. If he fails try to sell then.
PSG will be desperate to sell. If they bite, good deal. If they don't, let them and Neymar eat each other alive.
This just proves that the majority of people have no clue what's happening.
PSG know they're fucked in this situation. They know nobody is paying anywhere close to the 250m valuation..... we're definitely the only team who can offer them a good deal. I think we honestly have the advantage here. But as you said, the PSG owners have big egos.
Pedro
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Just yesterday the deal looked almost done, with even some tweets saying medical could be friday , yet today it looks like a u-turn , i think it's off.
Jadentheman
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Coutinho+Rakitic+ 40M at this point. If PSG wants to wait it out they can but time is running out
BarcaMessi
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Come on RM, you can do it
Devils
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I think he's still going to come based off the fact that:
1) PSG clearly wants to sell him
2) Barca are seemingly the only club who are putting in offers
3) Neymar's first choice being Barca
Nah.... I honestly think these news outlets have no clue what's going on. How many different rumours have we seen or heard? It keeps changing every 5 minutes. Heck, he was close to signing for Madrid like 3 days ago.
Ronaldinho10
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Great deal tbh we offload two midfield players that we have to many of anyway. I can't see why PSG should refuse this deal great for both sides.
Thiago10
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BBZ, I've seen you bring up these stats about 100 times both to praise Rakitic' god-like defending skills and to criticize Arthur's. While I can understand the latter - Arthur is indeed no defending machine (though I'd take him above Rakitic any day) - the former is just a result of wrong reasoning.
You're using 4 stats here to supposedly prove Rakitic has the best defensive stats out of all of our central midfielders. However, there is only stat pointing this way that actually has some (statistical) importance to it. Allow me to explain:
- Interceptions: 1.5 is not bad, in line with Busi so you could say he's the joint best in this area. Sure, I'll give you this one. Let's look at the other stats.
- Blocks: even mentioning this stat is absolutely ridiculous. You're talking about a stat where Rakitic is averaging 0.2/game. That makes the stat completely irrelevant for two reasons: Firstly, it is statistically insignificant. You don't compare metrics when the number of observations is this low, it just doesn't make any sense. If in the future Busi were to average 1 extra "lucky" block every 5 games over Rakitic (which could very well happen, after all what's one block every 5 games), he would end up making 0.2 blocks per game more than Raki. According to your logic of simply comparing stats to determine who's best in a skill, Busi would suddenly be the better "blocker". Do you think that makes sense? In more statistical terms, for a metric with such a low number of observations, randomness plays way too big of a role to make any interpretations. I'd recommend you do some research on the law of big numbers if you don't understand. Secondly, you have to think about the footballing significance of this stat. Sure, Rakitic' averages 0.2 blocks per game more than Arthur, that's 1 every 5 games. Is that something we actually value? Is one block every 5 games something that's even worth mentioning? I'd say hell no! No statistical significance + no footballing value = dogshit stat
- Clearances: same reasoning applies, to a lesser extent (I'll give you that). The difference with Busi and Vidal is really small however. Again, the difference is one extra clearance every five games (compared to Busi and Vidal). Is that even worth mentioning? Your call.
- Tackles: Aaah, the stat with the most statistical significance. This stat is much less skewed by random events (e.g. lucky tackles) than the other metrics. And what do we see? Rakitic is not the best one here, not even nearly. In fact, Busquets averages almost 4x more tackles every game than Raki! In other terms, he makes 2.5 more succesful tackles every game. Finally something that actually has some value for a football team: I think we can all agree that 2.5 tackles in a game is actually useful for a team.
So to sum up, you used 4 stats to prove your argument, of which
- 1 stat is relevant
- 1 stat is statistically completely insignificant with no footballing meaning/value, and in which Rakitic is joint best with 2 of the other 3 players
- 1 stat which is statistically fairly insignificant with no footballing meaning/value
- 1 stat that is statistically significant, that has footballing meaning/value and in which Raki gets destroyed by 2 of the other 3 players
Hope I made my point.
Thank you for reading, can't believe I wrote this whole BBZ of a bible...
I'll make sure to copy this monster so I can reply the same thing every time you bring up these nonsense stats.
Peace out, and make sure you respect statistics kids
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Never_Forget40
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Deserves it for his childish behaviour
Never_Forget40
Banned
Imagine after all the drama he is staying at PSG
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