Neymar Jr.

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Laplacian

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This is the difference between Ronaldinho and Neymar:
= Ronaldinho played way faster and way more direct
He was looking how to get to the goal in the fastest way.
While watching this video, I was imagining Neymar and he would slow down the play in majority of actions, dwell on a ball, try to dribble past 5 players and faking fouls/rolling on the ground.

Look at Ronaldinho here. Zero fights, zero arguing, zero rolling on the ground.
The opponents are attacking him in a fair way, there is no bad blood.
If Neymar were on the field, he would argue with opponents, with ref, with fans and probably with some of his teammates.


"Ronaldinho doesn't fight, Ronaldonho always smiles, never delaying the game. Pure manifestation of the game. Always smiling!"


Here you can see him fighting, giving out malicious tackles on purpose because he's being frustrated with the match, kicking players when the game is stopped...

Lmao, like I said. The Ronaldinho in your head is a fictional version of the man that exists/existed. Can't wait for the rationalizations as to why it's okay for Ronaldinho to start fights (Ronaldinho did it for the beauty of the game!!), and not Neymar lol.
 

Andresito

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There are basically 3 versions of Ney:

2010-2014
Showboating Ney, typical Brazilian. A Youtube player if you will. Young, raw.

2015-2016
The best version. Played for the team. Completed his companions in attack by working hard in defence and offence. Making runs and offering something different to Suarez and Messi.

2017-
Wannabe Messi. Left his LW more and more to become involved like Messi. Stopped making those runs that made him get into all these scoring positions. Ego took over and he thought this type of player would have a bygger chance to win Ballon d'Or compared to previous version.
 

FinBarcelonafan

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There are basically 3 versions of Ney:

2010-2014
Showboating Ney, typical Brazilian. A Youtube player if you will. Young, raw.

2015-2016
The best version. Played for the team. Completed his companions in attack by working hard in defence and offence. Making runs and offering something different to Suarez and Messi.

2017-
Wannabe Messi. Left his LW more and more to become involved like Messi. Stopped making those runs that made him get into all these scoring positions. Ego took over and he thought this type of player would have a bygger chance to win Ballon d'Or compared to previous version.

Well said. Evolution of Neymar.
 

Jadentheman

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There are basically 3 versions of Ney:

2010-2014
Showboating Ney, typical Brazilian. A Youtube player if you will. Young, raw.

2015-2016
The best version. Played for the team. Completed his companions in attack by working hard in defence and offence. Making runs and offering something different to Suarez and Messi.

2017-
Wannabe Messi. Left his LW more and more to become involved like Messi. Stopped making those runs that made him get into all these scoring positions. Ego took over and he thought this type of player would have a bygger chance to win Ballon d'Or compared to previous version.

I say because he became main man and the tractics demanded he be in the center. Then his injuries happened and now he's permanently stuck there because his explosiveness is gone. However even at Barca he would drift inwards to the center from the left wing. It's wild how Messi and him made it work regardless.
 

Blackened

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MSN was mostly about Messi and Suarez. Neymar was the luxury player of that trident. Suarez was pretty quick in his prime 0too.
 

Laplacian

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Watched another Ronaldinho video today:


I really don't get why BBZ likes Ronaldinho but hates Neymar when it comes to the actual football (we've already established that he hates young people). This guy plays almost exactly like Neymar, and has all of his flaws.

- Holding the ball for too long whenever he receives a pass. Constantly slowing down play.

- Going for the "hero ball" dribble option instead of going for the easy pass, which almost always leads to loss of possession

- Going for the hollywood passes almost all the time, most of them ending in hilarious error. Something Neymar gets criticized for.

- Gets fouled easily. Another thing Neymar gets criticized for.

- Loves to run into a crowd because he expects to dribble through them. BBZ hates that about Messi and Neymar.



Basically, if Neymar was taller and smiled a lot more than he does now BBZ would be a fan of his.

(Needs to be said though, some really great plays in that match.)
 

Bobo32

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It's easy to let nostalgia hide a players faults.
Ronaldinho came and changed the club, by bringing joy and optimism to everyone that watched any game he played for the first one or two years. He turned the club around on his own like no other player ever did. He did unbelievable things, but he was also pretty shit when he didn't have his day, especially the later Barcelona years he got too easily marked and couldn't find another solution than moaning and winning a free kick most of the time. He was still too heavily criticized those late years, and even then he decided a lot of games on his own.

Neymar is closer to Robinho (who is a bit underrated) than to Ronaldinho (who is a bit overrated) in class. I think he lacks Ronaldinhos genius completely, but he is lighter on his feet and probably a better dribbler.
 

vegitot

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It's easy to let nostalgia hide a players faults.
Ronaldinho came and changed the club, by bringing joy and optimism to everyone that watched any game he played for the first one or two years. He turned the club around on his own like no other player ever did. He did unbelievable things, but he was also pretty shit when he didn't have his day, especially the later Barcelona years he got too easily marked and couldn't find another solution than moaning and winning a free kick most of the time. He was still too heavily criticized those late years, and even then he decided a lot of games on his own.

Neymar is closer to Robinho (who is a bit underrated) than to Ronaldinho (who is a bit overrated) in class. I think he lacks Ronaldinhos genius completely, but he is lighter on his feet and probably a better dribbler.

Robinho didn't have half of Neymar's playmaking ability. Neymar is similiar to Robinho as a trickster but overall he is closer to Ronaldinho.
 

feggydinho

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It's easy to let nostalgia hide a players faults.
Ronaldinho came and changed the club, by bringing joy and optimism to everyone that watched any game he played for the first one or two years. He turned the club around on his own like no other player ever did. He did unbelievable things, but he was also pretty shit when he didn't have his day, especially the later Barcelona years he got too easily marked and couldn't find another solution than moaning and winning a free kick most of the time. He was still too heavily criticized those late years, and even then he decided a lot of games on his own.

Neymar is closer to Robinho (who is a bit underrated) than to Ronaldinho (who is a bit overrated) in class. I think he lacks Ronaldinhos genius completely, but he is lighter on his feet and probably a better dribbler.

Lol, Cmon, Robinho!!! Ronaldinho's peak is greater than Neymar's, but Neymar has been more consistent (So a summary of his attacking stats would most likely be more than Ronaldinho's, ranging from goals, assists, dribbles, key passes, chances created etc).
 
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