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Birdy

Senior Member
Aye and Flick will pick Casado and Gavi ahead of FDJ.. lets see.

Casado was picked v Alaves.. he was so poor on ball Alaves targetd him and Araujo and Barca struggled.

Try that one again.

Again:
against teams like Alaves that park a double decker bus deep, De Fraud skillset suits the team better because we need players who can break lines through carrying

Against better teams like Madrid, like PSG, like Aston Villa, like Liverpool or Arsenal later, Casado skillset suits the team better. De Fraud is lazy off the ball and is a liability especially against this type of opponents
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Again:
against teams like Alaves that park a double decker bus deep, De Fraud skillset suits the team better because we need players who can break lines through carrying

Against better teams like Madrid, like PSG, like Aston Villa, like Liverpool or Arsenal later, Casado skillset suits the team better. De Fraud is lazy off the ball and is a liability especially against this type of opponents

Again.. teams like Benfica did not park bus.. Casado struggled.

Betis and Valencia did not park bus..

Keep maufacturing scenarios.

Probably still think Arthur World Class and better than FDJ.

Sensational the 'FDJ is lazy' from the lad who gushed over Arthur though!

Nothing will ever beat 'Braithwaite brings more than Messi' though.
 

Horatio

You're welcome
Betting both my nuts Flick envisioned from very early on Frenkie to become part of his XI. But needed to be careful with that ankle. Was slowly getting integrated back. Frenkie was sloppy in early appearances but didn’t faze Flick. Plan to give more and more minutes would still go on.

Same as with Czseszny where to some he looked horrendous in string of games but here we are. Flicks first pick.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Betting both my nuts Flick envisioned from very early on Frenkie to become part of his XI. But needed to be careful with that ankle. Was slowly getting integrated back. Frenkie was sloppy in early appearances but didn’t faze Flick. Plan to give more and more minutes would still go on.

Same as with Czseszny where to some he looked horrendous in string of games but here we are. Flicks first pick.

Well, Flick could have envisioned him as part of his team, sure,
but after having Casado on the pitch as a starter for 3 months, and him clicking with Pedri deep, I doubt he would simply ditch something working for something he had envisioned some time in the past.

In early apperances Frekie was not just sloppy, he was terrible.
He started playing better against specific opponents, I described the kind of teams.
The Alaves sub is telling. Coach thought that he needs another skillset.
On the other hand, if his thinking was what you say, he would have never made that sub
 

Horatio

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Well, Flick could have envisioned him as part of his team, sure,
but after having Casado on the pitch as a starter for 3 months, and him clicking with Pedri deep, I doubt he would simply ditch something working for something he had envisioned some time in the past.

In early apperances Frekie was not just sloppy, he was terrible.
He started playing better against specific opponents, I described the kind of teams.

He started playing better due to game rhythm. You know how long he has been out? Flick knew.

Same reason why i said Araujo deserves more time to prove himself.
 

jamrock

Senior Member
De Jong definitely started the season as a Starter.

Casado Changed that, they are two different type of players, that you'll need for different games.

Casado for the best teams

De jong for the rest.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Well, Flick could have envisioned him as part of his team, sure,
but after having Casado on the pitch as a starter for 3 months, and him clicking with Pedri deep, I doubt he would simply ditch something working for something he had envisioned some time in the past.

In early apperances Frekie was not just sloppy, he was terrible.
He started playing better against specific opponents, I described the kind of teams.
The Alaves sub is telling. Coach thought that he needs another skillset.
On the other hand, if his thinking was what you say, he would have never made that sub

Pedri and Casado deep has struggled for a while now in league and CL.
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
De Jong definitely started the season as a Starter.

Casado Changed that, they are two different type of players, that you'll need for different games.

Casado for the best teams

De jong for the rest.

No.. FDJ was not fit so of course Casado would play.

FDJ came back and was not good enough across a run of games and Casado was more reliable.

Casado barely had a good game since October though and team were faltering.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
Again.. teams like Benfica did not park bus.. Casado struggled.

Betis and Valencia did not park bus..

Keep maufacturing scenarios.

Probably still think Arthur World Class and better than FDJ.

Sensational the 'FDJ is lazy' from the lad who gushed over Arthur though!

Nothing will ever beat 'Braithwaite brings more than Messi' though.

Betis and Valencia did not press aggressively, and did not require defensive work form the Barca DM
This is precisely De Fraud's pitfall: teams that do the above expose his shortcomings.
Teams on the contrary that are passive to different degrees, invite him to carry and he can cover his flaws and let his skills show

That your idol is a disaster defensively is well documented

PS: Still with your lie about Braithwate?
Trying so hard to make it sound like someone else had a most terrible take than yours in 2017 'VVD is nowhere near Laporte' :lol:
 

JamDav1982

Senior Member
Betis and Valencia did not press aggressively, and did not require defensive work form the Barca DM
This is precisely De Fraud's pitfall: teams that do the above expose his shortcomings.
Teams on the contrary that are passive to different degrees, invite him to carry and he can cover his flaws and let his skills show

That your idol is a disaster defensively is well documented

PS: Still with your lie about Braithwate?
Trying so hard to make it sound like someone else had a most terrible take than yours in 2017 'VVD is nowhere near Laporte' :lol:

Valencia absolutley did press.. try watching the games.

Betis press also but with likes of FDJ much more difficult to sustain it in any way.

Nothing will ever beat 'Braithwait better than Messi'.

You still think Arthur is better than FDJ. Says it all.
 

Birdy

Senior Member
De Jong definitely started the season as a Starter.

Casado Changed that, they are two different type of players, that you'll need for different games.

Casado for the best teams

De jong for the rest.

This pretty much.
Different skillset, different utility depending on opponent

He started playing better due to game rhythm. You know how long he has been out? Flick knew.

Same reason why i said Araujo deserves more time to prove himself.

Rhythm is an aspect, but not the only one.
See above.
De Fraud is a liability against specific opponents
 

Horatio

You're welcome
This pretty much.
Different skillset, different utility depending on opponent



Rhythm is an aspect, but not the only one.
See above.
De Fraud is a liability against specific opponents

Okay. Let’s see how often Flick keeps playing him and how he does.

Think Flick values him a lot cause he’s experienced and considers it essential in CL.
 

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