Nuri Sahin

[ryuken]

They have a hobby of stacking midfielder

 

[Metaphysical]

WTF do Madrid need him for? Don't they already have Ozil? Not to mention...

because he's available and he's good.

squad-stacking is just how Real Madrid roll.

it's obscene, but there ya go.

 

[evilhita666]

I've heard that some German newspapers have criticized him for choosing Madrid, is that true?

 

[el tren]

At least i didnt read about that (but im not reading every newspaper ...).

Zorc (dortmunds managing director) told the press that Sahins future its not up them anymore. Its said that Sahin has a buyout claus of 10M for foreign clubs. Sahin is expected to reveal his future in a press conference on monday.

Regarding his (very likely) future at RM i already said that i would be more than surprised if Sahin could make it in RM - which would naturally mean that he replaces Xabi. Thus i rather expect him to take up Gagos spot - almost permanent benching. Its still a good move from RM to replace a stagnating player in Gago, who probably gave up already for Sahin, who costs around the same money Gago will refund. Its just a horrible decision for Sahin imo.

 

[Myrmecophile]

Also wanted Barca to sign, Sahin, he's better than Busquets IMO.

 

[Robbie]

At least i didnt read about that (but im not reading every newspaper ...).

Zorc (dortmunds managing director) told the press that Sahins future its not up them anymore. Its said that Sahin has a buyout claus of 10M for foreign clubs. Sahin is expected to reveal his future in a press conference on monday.

Regarding his (very likely) future at RM i already said that i would be more than surprised if Sahin could make it in RM - which would naturally mean that he replaces Xabi. Thus i rather expect him to take up Gagos spot - almost permanent benching. Its still a good move from RM to replace a stagnating player in Gago, who probably gave up already for Sahin, who costs around the same money Gago will refund. Its just a horrible decision for Sahin imo.

It's the common mentality of a pro footballer, everyone knows that Madrid is a high pressure environment where many have failed but no matter who joins them they will always believe that they are not one of "those people" who will end up on the bench. Pedro Leon and Sergio Canales probably thought the same thing Sahin is thinking right now, but all of them will end up ruining their careers and Madrid will go after another famous midfielder next season.

Reminds me of Hleb. He had it all at Arsenal but somehow in his tiny brain thought he was good enough to displace Messi or Iniesta.

 

[Raed]

At least i didnt read about that (but im not reading every newspaper ...).

Zorc (dortmunds managing director) told the press that Sahins future its not up them anymore. Its said that Sahin has a buyout claus of 10M for foreign clubs. Sahin is expected to reveal his future in a press conference on monday.

Regarding his (very likely) future at RM i already said that i would be more than surprised if Sahin could make it in RM - which would naturally mean that he replaces Xabi. Thus i rather expect him to take up Gagos spot - almost permanent benching. Its still a good move from RM to replace a stagnating player in Gago, who probably gave up already for Sahin, who costs around the same money Gago will refund. Its just a horrible decision for Sahin imo.

To be honest, I don't see why he should come to Madrid, but I do not want to see Xabi play that many games anymore. He will rotate with him until he learns the language. But is Sahin that much better than Granero? Am I holding onto Granero more than I should because he is Spanish and from Madrid? What about Parejo?

Whatever happened to making the team Spanish? Thing is with Madrid, we can't look beyond an attractive offer. Pedro Leon is an idiot, Canales is not ready, Gago is to be sold, something is fishy around Lass therefore with all these probable exits, Sahin would be welcome in. It will be Khedira, Xabi, Granero and Sahin.

 

[antonnn]

I'd like for Chelsea to get this lad if we didn't have Ramires, but even if Essien were to leave it'd be a waste to have Sahin since he's not a DM(the only place he could play since Ramires is our current best midfielder and Lamps isn't about to be dropped just yet).

 

[yusuf]

I wouldnt like Sahin leaving Dortmund now. They seem to be on the edge on becoming another force in germany and maybe europe, but a Sahin departure could hurt that (although their biggest talent is set to stay for several more years fortunately).

And it would really surprise me if Sahin would prevail in RM. He is in a totally different situation in Dortmund: even though being still quite young, he is surrounded by a bunch of young guns of which he is the most experienced players. And that surely helps dictating the play and the team a lot. And this is what he also failed to do in the turkish MT, where he didnt settle so far.

And i think him choosing to play for Turkey over Germany is as much of a mistake as a transfer to RM would be, for pretty much the same reason: he just doesnt have the lobby and the respect of the players around him to bring in his strength as a playmaker.

wrong playing for your home country aint that bad and its not like turkey are scrubs

To be honest, I don't see why he should come to Madrid, but I do not want to see Xabi play that many games anymore. He will rotate with him until he learns the language. But is Sahin that much better than Granero? Am I holding onto Granero more than I should because he is Spanish and from Madrid? What about Parejo?

Whatever happened to making the team Spanish? Thing is with Madrid, we can't look beyond an attractive offer. Pedro Leon is an idiot, Canales is not ready, Gago is to be sold, something is fishy around Lass therefore with all these probable exits, Sahin would be welcome in. It will be Khedira, Xabi, Granero and Sahin.

raed...sahin is better than everybody in your mid except maybe xabi

 

[el tren]

To be honest, I don't see why he should come to Madrid, but I do not want to see Xabi play that many games anymore. He will rotate with him until he learns the language. But is Sahin that much better than Granero? Am I holding onto Granero more than I should because he is Spanish and from Madrid? What about Parejo?

Whatever happened to making the team Spanish? Thing is with Madrid, we can't look beyond an attractive offer. Pedro Leon is an idiot, Canales is not ready, Gago is to be sold, something is fishy around Lass therefore with all these probable exits, Sahin would be welcome in. It will be Khedira, Xabi, Granero and Sahin.

I cant really evaluate Granero good, b/c i havent seen him playing that much.

Now Sahin had a certainly good season - but his first really good season in his career. His main contribution comes from his playmaking as basically, he is doing in Dortmund what Xavi does for Barca, Xabi for RM, Schweinsteiger does for Bayern and the german NT etc. On top of that he adapted nicely to Klopps hard pressing game. And that could maybe set him over Xabi, b/c he is more mobile and pacy than him and better at "active" defending. Maybe thats what Mourinho is looking for ... but i dont know ...

On the other hand, like i mentioned above, he has a much much lower reputation and lobby at RM than he has in Dortmund. And every playmaker and focal point of the team needs to have that - otherwise he just wouldnt get the amount of ball contacts a playmaker needs and usually has. And that could be the key obstacle that makes him fail. B/c i just cant see Xabi to sit down on the bench, taking it "professional". And the other players also wouldnt respect him from day 1 and use him as first passing option.

And he has a very similar situation with the turkish NT, where he is sth like an "outsider" and thus couldnt seettle yet - for seemingly the same reason.

wrong playing for your home country aint that bad and its not like turkey are scrubs


raed...sahin is better than everybody in your mid except maybe xabi

Well, i just evaluated his decision for career-related criterias, not for emotional ones. But when we are talking about "home country", you should know that he was born in germany, lived his whole life in german, knows Turkey from vacations only and i doubt he speaks the turkish language that fluently, but most likely worse than german ...

And thats why joining the turkish NT is so bad imo, not (only) b/c the german NT is much more successful: he would have had it much easier to settle into the german team, as he is known there and respected among the BL players, has several team buddies from Dortmund in the NT and is adapted to language and mentality - much more than in Turkey. For the other turkish players he could easily be some outsider, trying to take over the "real turks" spots. And that makes it much harder imo.

 

[antonnn]

Lol @ calling Sahin better than everyone in Real's midfield bar Xabi after he's had 1 good season? Cule bias at it's absolute finest.

 

[Xavi_78]

I agree with Raed. As far as I remember one promise from Perez when he took over again was to build a more spanish team, at the moment it seems more the contrary. They have no spanish players introduced in the core of their first team, it is still Iker, Xabi and Ramos. The others are just on the bench, if at all. If they do not change that than Barca players will again have the bigger part of the NT first team in the next EURO.

And I really worry for Canales. Any news what will happen to him next season?

 

[Gnegneri]

I agree with Raed. As far as I remember one promise from Perez when he took over again was to build a more spanish team, at the moment it seems more the contrary. They have no spanish players introduced in the core of their first team,

If I'm not mistaken, 3 goals by Madrid have been scored by Spanish players. Two by Ramos and one by Granero. Hats off to Florentino.

 

[Chainsaw]

10m is a good deal for Madrid. Moratti lose the chance of getting another talented midfielder for a fairy good price.

 

[Myrmecophile]

If I'm not mistaken, 3 goals by Madrid have been scored by Spanish players. Two by Ramos and one by Granero. Hats off to Florentino.

Alonso has one as well, I think.