Óscar Mingueza

[JamDav1982]

"Won't get team anywhere."

Mingueza has enough quality to play in this team, he has proven it. Right now it would be stupid to sell a player for peanuts who has enough quality to perform with the current crop of players, integrated into the squad in no time, has the right attitude and is coming out of La Masia.
Has nothing to do with the usual "Barca DNA" thing when a player gets praise for his playing style but lacks quality in other areas. Mingueza is certainly not a typical Barca player as we have seen them coming out of La Masia nearly every year.
It is uncertain if Koeman stays, how future coaches will rate him and how Mingueza will develop but only then it would make sense to talk about a transfer. Right now it won't get the team anywhere to sell proven squad players while we have so many other problems and glaring holes in the squad.

Imo some here just underrate his quality.

Dont agree. He has been decent in three at back but shown a lot of flaws in his game. Dives in far too early and positional sense is terrible. Teams were targeting him by end of season.

Who said Mingueza has 'Barca DNA'? The point is players that are said to have that or work hard ahead of ability are not worth nearly what some claim they are if lack the ability.

Lets see how he goes from here but dont see him as anywhere near the level some others do.

 

[JamDav1982]

Not the same though. Everyone knows what to expect from Mingueza, and not many assume he'll become a sure starter for Barca even if he matures some more.

Puig is seen as a saviour. He's shown glimpses of providing technical abilites that no other midfielder possesses. People want him on the pitch because of hope and his assumed potential.

It's easy to see the different type of fanbases between Puig and Mingueza, and they're not the same.

It is the same in that he will be rated more and more the less he plays and folk will base that on rating him too highly than on what he has shown in my opinion.

Common thing in football for players to sometimes grow in stock the less they play and not just on situations like Puigs.

 

[Rory]

well yeah, so we are in agreement. he's shite, we'll keep him for sentimental value and we end up asking ourselves in 7 years time how did we keep him for so long

He just needs to be managed properly by the board, something we haven't seen happen throughout Bartomeu's time in charge. Maybe this board will be different. I'd be surprised if he's here in 7 years unless he improves dramatically. For a 21 year old he's done pretty well though.

 

[Rory]

Then there are folk that are saying Barca should pack up and go home if ever sold him, wouldnt take 40m for him and he should be on short list of players not to be sold.

Massively overhyped when claims like that being made.

Can see him being the next martyr like Puig if doesnt play much next season. His stock will rise with every game he doesnt play.

No doubt he's hyped up a lot. I think he's been better than you give him credit for but not as good as people are making out. Needs to clearly develop areas of his game to have a future here.

 

[Andresito]

It is the same in that he will be rated more and more the less he plays and folk will base that on rating him too highly than on what he has shown in my opinion.

Common thing in football for players to sometimes grow in stock the less they play and not just on situations like Puigs.

It depends though. The shouts for Riqui started when Pedri looked more and more tired. If the team is functional not many bat an eye.

The case of Puig is rather that he's being treated unfairly, that's why he's martyred imo. Pedri has been running on fumes for months but keeps being ahead of his backup. Of course people raise their voices.

Mingueza will most likely be what Roberto failed to be: our Nacho. A versatile and anonymous player who steps in when needed and does his job exactly the way you expect him to.

 

[serghei]

Why are we even talking about selling Mingueza, who's not even rated that much as to bring in a lot of money for the club, as long as we have defenders like Pique and Umtiti stinking up the place? People act as if we have the likes of De Ligt and Varane in the team, to the point someone like Mingueza is surplus to requirement.

It depends though. The shouts for Riqui started when Pedri looked more and more tired. If the team is functional not many bat an eye.

The case of Puig is rather that he's being treated unfairly, that's why he's martyred imo. Pedri has been running on fumes for months but keeps being ahead of his backup. Of course people raise their voices.

Mingueza will most likely be what Roberto failed to be: our Nacho. A versatile and anonymous player who steps in when needed and does his job exactly the way you expect him to.

Good posts man.

 

[JamDav1982]

No doubt he's hyped up a lot. I think he's been better than you give him credit for but not as good as people are making out. Needs to clearly develop areas of his game to have a future here.

I think he did well for where he came from but dont think he is better than likes of Garcia and has clear weaknesses that if doesnt have a huge improvement he will struggle with particularly in a back four.

Can see next season when both in squad and where Mingueza is at in a years time. If wrong and he is as good as others think he is fair play.

 

[JamDav1982]

Why are we even talking about selling Mingueza, who's not even rated that much as to bring in a lot of money for the club, as long as we have defenders like Pique and Umtiti stinking up the place? People act as if we have the likes of De Ligt and Varane in the team, to the point someone like Mingueza is surplus to requirement.

Who is talking about selling him?

Seems to be only folk that support him keep mentioning it.

 

[JamDav1982]

It depends though. The shouts for Riqui started when Pedri looked more and more tired. If the team is functional not many bat an eye.

The case of Puig is rather that he's being treated unfairly, that's why he's martyred imo. Pedri has been running on fumes for months but keeps being ahead of his backup. Of course people raise their voices.

Mingueza will most likely be what Roberto failed to be: our Nacho. A versatile and anonymous player who steps in when needed and does his job exactly the way you expect him to.

Puig claims started long before Pedri was even at club and Pedri tired was just the latest reason.

Only folk that think he is being 'treated unfairly' are those that rate him to certain level.

Koeman clearly doesnt rate him that highly and told him to go on loan. Not been treated unfairly in slightest unless apply that to every player that doesnt play more.

 

[serghei]

Didn't you say we should give him to Betis for the full rights of Emerson a few posts above? Terrible idea.

 

[JamDav1982]

Didn't you say we should give him to Betis for the full rights of Emerson a few posts above? Terrible idea.

100% would do that if it came to it and absolutely would sell him if got a good offer but not mentioning it when discussing him and his ability in general.

Lets go down that road though as easily can.

How much would you take to sell him? 40m?

 

[iniestaGOAT]

Nah cant sell him. One of those players who should stick around for next 10 years as nothing but back up earning decent wages purely there for spirit and locker room presence.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nah cant sell him. One of those players who should stick around for next 10 years as nothing but back up earning decent wages purely there for spirit and locker room presence.

If anyone at Barca would turn down 40m for Mingueza they should resign immediately.

Regardless he is not some mascot.. he is a footballer that should be there for footballing reasons and if not good enough for that sold to get on with his career.

 

[vegitot]

40m for Minguenza??? No team will pay that much.

 

[fergus90]

He won't leave right now as there really aren't standout defenders currently at the club that could severely limit Mingueza's playing time. They all have their own weaknesses, so he's arrived at the first team at the right-time in terms of having a future.

Even with Garcia coming in, who has not shown anything to suggest he's going to be able to resolve Barca's defensive problems either.