It is exciting only if you actually have faith in the player that he knows what he is doing. Otherwise it is stressful to watch lol
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Ousmane Dembélé
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It is exciting only if you actually have faith in the player that he knows what he is doing. Otherwise it is stressful to watch lol
This is the weirdest fucking response about Dembele ever, and you aren't the first one to use it either. People wanting Dembele to exhibit close control in tight spaces and excel in short passing in tight areas, isn't the same as wanting him to be a "generic Barcelona safe passer." Why are you guys so obsessed with that strawman? Neymar, Ronaldinho, and Messi were all technically assured wingers that we want Dembele to be and they're anything but the generic Barcelona safe passing players.
We're not saying we don't want Dembele to take risks, we're saying we're tired of watching his poor awareness, poor decision making, and technique when he's in possession of the ball. READ the comments you're making. BBZ, me, Tackle, and other users literally have no problems with our wingers taking risks and being creative. Saying we do is just one huge dishonest strawman.
If anything Dembele is too safe. He's far more likely to make a cutback cross outside the box or pass to his fullback because he's not confident enough to play in through balls or crosses to dangerous but difficult spots to find. he also doesn't attempt 1vs1s as much as he should.
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I love how this argument only makes sense when it's convenient for you. Valverde being a top level coach and loving Rakitic must mean there's something to him...right? As if "authorities" have never been wrong about players before.
Seriously, if this is your line of thought then it makes the majority of forum discussions pointless (critiquing players), because quite literally, players are there in the first place because authorities of the club (chairmen, scouts, managers, staff) believe they're good enough to be there in the first place. Following your line of thought, it's weird of you to criticise Andre Gomes or Arda Turan as well.
you'd have a point if tuchel was the only one in pursuit of dembele. but prior to him coming he turned down madrid (https://www.espn.co.uk/football/bar...rid-and-paris-saint-germain-to-join-barcelona), last summer arsenal had the door slammed shut in their faces and liverpool desperately want him
rakitic on the other hand hasn't had a single transfer rumor since he's been at barca besides the fake pogba swap deals that the media would make up while mourinho was in charge. the same goes for the others who haven't been linked to anywhere near the same amount of clubs as dembele. hahahahaha
btw what are your credentials? i respect your opinion, but it's just not stacking up with these so called experts who would fall flat on their face in pursuit of dembele if barca ever made him available. have you coached at top level and witnessed thousands of professional footballers like these guys? or are you lacking in that regard like the guy you just cited in BBZ? the same one whose expert analysis led him to bizarely believe that coutinho would be the "second most important player on barca behind messi "by miles" (just check the sig)
thanks, but i trust those guys opinions over the likes of you and BBZ hahaha
It's just such a weird criticism. The whole point of these spaces is for amateurs to gather and discuss their viewpoints, you're basically criticising us for being amateurs. I'm a casual viewer, I have no credentials.
There's just no point discussing anything if that's how you think. In my opinion, the whole point is to make casual observations based on what you see on the pitch - obviously said observations are influenced by your bias, like your ideals of how a player should look like. If "authorities disagree you" is your stance, then what's the point? I believe every player you've ever talked shit about, there were a vast number of authorities that disagreed with you, I mean it's why they're there playing football in the first place.
i respect the opinion and judgement of guys who have been in the presence of THOUSANDS of footballers, across multiple countries and at the HIGHEST level of football, in regards to their opinion about dembele...
...over a self admitted "casual viewer" and the other comedian who stated that coutinho would be barca's "second best player by far behind messi" and would fit in better than neymar
forget the fact that you're a self admitted "casual viewer" (your words not mine ahahahhaha), the fact that you share the same views as that guy over dembele (let me not even go into how he was praising malcom for being an "alpha" when he first arrived because of "look in his eyes that dembele lacked") tells me everything about how far i should take you seriously!
hahahahhahaha
Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
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Loads of great managers make wrong evaluations of players though. Pep sanctioned buying Ibra for 70m + Eto. 50m for John stones. Tuchel bought Parades for 45m and has done nothing to be regarded in the class of 'great' as a manager anyway.
Just because a good manager rates a player doesn't make it a truth we should all just shutup and take as gospel.
You do know quite literally everyone here is a casual viewer of football? Potroh's probably the only exception. Seriously, most football fans watch at best two teams on a regular basis. We're not scouts, we're not coaches, we're not professional players or anything. I'm not delusional about my "credentials", are you?
Seriously, look at the other replies given to you. If that's literally your point of tactic, then why are you even discussing this? Why do you even bother criticising Valverde? Try harder.
wait, did you miss the part were i already countered this talking point by stating how dembele was highly coveted by madrid prior to arriving at barca (who he REJECTED -- https://www.espn.co.uk/football/bar...rid-and-paris-saint-germain-to-join-barcelona), psg, arsenal, liverpool and even man utd?
all the managers and scouting teams at these clubs have got it all wrong and i should place my faith in the hands of BBZ (the comedian who boldly stated that coutinho would be the 2nd best barca player and would make fans forget about neymar), Laplacian (the self-admitted "casual viewer" ahahaha!) and Mr. "Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor" for their expert analysis on one of europe's most coveted winger???
ahahahhahahahahahahhahahahahaha
nope, i'm not delusional about my credentials, hence, me entrusting the decision making of coaches and scouts who have been in the presence of thousands of footballers across multiple countries with regards to their pursuit of dembele, over the barcaforum "expert analysts" such as yourself, BBZ and Mr. "Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor"...
...who'd like me to believe that this guy managed to outcompete hundreds of thousands french youngsters (arguably the nation with the best crop of young footballers in the world today) to make it to the professional ranks, "slither" into the bundesliga 2016-17 team of the season (btw, that's probably sancho's biggest achievement up to date, LMAO!) in his one and only season there and then go onto play for the biggest club in the world just by mere luck, because as far you comedians are concerned this guy has "no IQ" and can barely dribble a football.
so how the hell did he manage to make it so far? i mean if it's "all athleticism and no brains" then surely usain bolt's football career should've panned out far better than it did right?
hahahahahaha, like i said, i'll stick to trusting the professionals for their opinion on dembele over the self-admitted "casual viewers" ahahahaha!!
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Ernesto GOATverde Tejedor
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It's totally irrelevant to me that psg, Madrid Liverpool and whoever else wanted him. Does that help him control the ball and improve his technique enough to stop giving it away cheap? No.
I've got my own eyes, which help me make my own decision on the player. Should we all stop criticising EV because he is a double league winning manager? Better to be a shepherd than a sheep.
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Add Man City to that list of clubs that were after him but hey what do they know. The experts are signed up on this forum.
And isn't it funny that Coutinho said that Dembele and Messi were the two players at Barca with the best technique and even their GOD Messi called him a phenomenon on the pitch. but let the haters tell u he's shit and should be sold asap
nah bruh, it's completely irrelevant that these clubs that have MILLIONS of resources devoted to their scouting of players have been all over this guy like a swat of flies (imagine a teen turning down real madrid), we're supposed to entrust the self-admitted "casual viewers" (@Laplacian -- your own words to describe yourself, hahaha) and the likes of BBZ (check the sig for his "expert analysis" on coutinho; and i'm not even going to bother digging up his atrocious opinions on the "alpha" malcom when he first arrived and was supposed to "replace dembele", LMAO!) to inform us on how good one of europe's most coveted wingers truly are, and how all these other elite teams have got it wrong (not just a single manager which they're trying to make it seem like, LOL)
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