Ousmane Dembélé

[Messi983]

Yes, but we're not really in a position to get money when he can start to negotiate with other teams in less than 3 months.

 

[Raketa10]

Yes, but we're not really in a position to get money when he can start to negotiate with other teams in less than 3 months.

That's why I said it's important to try to renew him first. If we manage to do that than we can at least get something for him. If he refuses to renew than he should go to the stands. This guy costed us 140 mil and he gave NOTHING to this club. If he wants to go for free he should never play for this club again.

 

[malvolio]

That's why I said it's important to try to renew him first. If we manage to do that than we can at least get something for him.

you don't renew a player now only to sell him a couple of months later.

 

[Raketa10]

you don't renew a player now only to sell him a couple of months later.

Why? Do you honestly think it's better to let him go for free and earn nothing??? If we renew him and he starts to perform it's a win-win if he doesn't well we can at least get something. Even 15 or 20 mil is more than 0.

 

[mc_lovin]

That's why I said it's important to try to renew him first. If we manage to do that than we can at least get something for him. If he refuses to renew than he should go to the stands.

Usually I would agree, but we need him unfortunately unlike Ilaix for example, who was more of a project. If I were Dembele I wouldn't risk playing half a year without a new contract though (well, two months if he signs something in January). Either way, our squad building is not affected by his choice, we can't go into the season depending on him anyway.

 

[Raketa10]

Usually I would agree, but we need him unfortunately unlike Ilaix for example, who was more of a project. If I were Dembele I wouldn't risk playing half a year without a new contract though (well, two months if he signs something in January). Either way, our squad building is not affected by his choice, we can't go into the season depending on him anyway.

I don't think that Dembele will add anything significant to this team. We all hoped for that many times and yet he managed to disappoint us every single time. We can probably count on our two hands his good performances for this club. Raw talent without consistency means nothing. If you add all of his injuries to his inconsistency you get a player you can't rely on.

 

[mc_lovin]

I don't think that Dembele will add anything significantly to this team. We all hoped for that many times and yet he managed to disappoint us every single time.

I thought he was average as fuck last season, but at least filled a certain role. I think he would help us at the moment. There's a bit of hope in me that he plays better as a RW as well, not that I expect him to start dominating though.

 

[malvolio]

Why? Do you honestly think it's better to let him go for free and earn nothing??? If we renew him and he starts to perform it's a win-win if he doesn't well we can at least get something. Even 15 or 20 mil is more than 0.

of course it's not better. but giving him another contract now means that you have faith in the guy and want him here for at least another full season.

do you think he re-signs now and just agrees to leave in the summer when he'll not get the same salary and signing on fee as he would if he was a free agent?

so dembele will surely ask at least a similar salary as the one he has now. will the club want to have another headache in trying to move him on when he is on a 5 year contract?

i believe the boat has left the harbor and dembele is set to leave. we missed our chance in the spring/summer before he got injured again.

 

[Raketa10]

I thought he was average as fuck last season, but at least filled a certain role. I think he would help us at the moment. There's a bit of hope in me that he plays better as a RW as well, not that I expect him to start dominating though.

I hope you are right but in the end of the day it's sometimes also a matter of principle. IMHO he owes a lot to this club considering he earned millions he didn't deserve. He is not Mbappe who gave a lot more to PSG and in Dembele's case I wouldn't bulge if he wants to go for free.

so dembele will surely ask at least a similar salary as the one he has now. will the club want to have another headache in trying to move him on when he is on a 5 year contract?

If he asks for the same or similar salary than we have a no brainier. He should go. However, do you honestly think that anyone would give him the salary he had here during the last 5 years? I sincerely doubt that.

 

[malvolio]

If he asks for the same or similar salary than we have a no brainier. He should go. However, do you honestly think that anyone would give him the salary he had here during the last 5 years? I sincerely doubt that.

You never know. PSG might. Or if Newcastle get bought by the Arabs, they might.

Also you have to consider that he'll get a bonus when putting pen to paper. That might even out the difference in salary and he'll get the same or more as in Barca.

Dembele is the kind of guy that would sign for Real Madrid.

 

[Messi983]

That's why I said it's important to try to renew him first. If we manage to do that than we can at least get something for him. If he refuses to renew than he should go to the stands.

We are trying to renew and I don't think he's actually refusing, they're just negotiating and it takes time.

Renewing only to sell him next year could be a risky move as it's quite possible he wouldn't want to leave or if he continues to get injured no team will want to buy him (especially if he'll be injured during/just before transfer windows). So if Laporta will renew him it better be because he still believes in Dembele as a player more than trying make some money by selling him.

But our question here is if it's better to:

a.) let him go for nothing and potentially risk he'll suddenly overcome his injuries (not very likely but possible) and turn into a good player in another club. Don't think he has all that much untapped potential left after missing years of development and his ceilling probably wasn't as high as believed when we've signed him anyway.

b.) renew for let's say 50% pay cut and risk to miss 5-6 months every season when we can sign someone who would play for even lower wages and actually be available for most games (we can't be as stupid/unlucky/cursed/whatever to sign another player as injury prone as Dembele, can we?)?

Not saying whoever his potential replacement would be would turn out a better player/talent than Dembele as he would first need to prove that but would be more useful if just able to stay fit. Would obviously also be a lot cheaper as we can't afford big money transfers now so easier to offload if he wouldn't met expectations.

 

[jamrock]

I doubt he will renew, can't believe we have come to a point in our club that we are looking forward to a player that has largely failed in the years he has been here to save our attack though.

But If he helps us to the top 4 then leaves I'll take it.

 

[JerseyAddict]

Sell to Newcastle.

 

[Jadentheman]

I wish him luck if the Newcastle rumors are true. He will go to EPL and then others will see how he’s a clown

 

[malvolio]

Sell to Newcastle.

we'll have to pray they want to make a statement in january and pay something for him. otherwise they could just offer him a contract and wait for him to join in july.