Ousmane Dembélé

[Maradona37]

No not really he was trying to be too literally in the use of the word lead.

If dembele leads PSG to a CL win, he will have a better legacy at PSG than Neymar, not much up for discussion there TBH.

Its literally the one thing the club was bought to achieve, its why they spent 400m on two players and still couldn't win it.

He won't lead them though. He isn't leading them now, as MonteCuler says. It's a team effort, stop being blinded by stats. I watched them last night and they're a cohesive team.

So everything Culer said is correct.
I never said anything about Neymar as I said it was a huge mistake when he moved to PSG. Having a better legacy at PSG than Neymar is hardly an achievement. Neymar is an extreme talent and miles more talented than dembele, but he's a clown who fucked his career for many many reasons.

 

[Maradona37]

Also, you two debate in bad faith. Monte made a silly comment with Martin/Carlos. But the rest of his post was spot on and instead you picked out that one comment and ignored the rest.

Poor debating tactics.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

Dembele's legacy would be higher than from Mbappe/Ney if he wins cl and continues with his wc performances which he has now.

Ney and Mbappe showed worldclass performances but no big title.

Ofc prime Ney and Mbappe were better but for fans titles matter

 

[jamrock]

He won't lead them though. He isn't leading them now, as MonteCuler says. It's a team effort, stop being blinded by stats. I watched them last night and they're a cohesive team.

So everything Culer said is correct.
I never said anything about Neymar as I said it was a huge mistake when he moved to PSG. Having a better legacy at PSG than Neymar is hardly an achievement. Neymar is an extreme talent and miles more talented than dembele, but he's a clown who fucked his career for many many reasons.

So you and monte are saying hypothetically conversations should not happen in football.

I'll remember that, lol.

 

[Maradona37]

So you and monte are saying hypothetically conversations should not happen in football.

I'll remember that, lol.

Ridiculous hypotheticals like Dembele leading PSG to the CL trophy, yes.

Even if they win it (which I am very doubtful they will) he won't have led them there - it is a non-starter of an argument. They are more of a team than a side of stars.

You just seem the type who has a basic thought process. 'Guy has best stats in team, ergo he must be leading his team'. Clearly never kicked a ball.

 

[MonteCuler]

This PSG team is defensively nothing special. They conceded a shitload of chances against Liverpool and as unlucky as they were in Paris, a lot of that luck returned on Anfield.

They're a brute offensive force but so are we and so is Madrid, yet none of the 3 has a formidable defense. There is nothing in my view that puts them ahead of either us or Madrid as favourites to win the competition, especially considering their long history of bottling it.

 

[jamrock]

Ridiculous hypotheticals like Dembele leading PSG to the CL trophy, yes.

Even if they win it (which I am very doubtful they will) he won't have led them there - it is a non-starter of an argument. They are more of a team than a side of stars.

You just seem the type who has a basic thought process. 'Guy has best stats in team, ergo he must be leading his team'. Clearly never kicked a ball.

Stats?
Que?
Okay I'll remember that, no hypothetically conversations in football.

 

[jamrock]

Dembele's legacy would be higher than from Mbappe/Ney if he wins cl and continues with his wc performances which he has now.

Ney and Mbappe showed worldclass performances but no big title.

Ofc prime Ney and Mbappe were better but for fans titles matter

Its really that simple

 

[Maradona37]

This PSG team is defensively nothing special. They conceded a shitload of chances against Liverpool and as unlucky as they were in Paris, a lot of that luck returned on Anfield.

They're a brute offensive force but so are we and so is Madrid, yet none of the 3 has a formidable defense. There is nothing in my view that puts them ahead of either us or Madrid as favourites to win the competition, especially considering their long history of bottling it.

It's just people getting carried away with them right now as they're the flavour of the month. They will likely be eliminated soon.

I mean they might win the CL, but all this talk of Dembele leading them CL glory is fucking laughable and shows how reactionary football fans truly are. Can't think beyond the here and now.

 

[Maradona37]

Stats?
Que?
Okay I'll remember that, no hypothetically conversations in football.

Yawn.

 

[Fati_Future_BallonDor]

This PSG team is defensively nothing special. They conceded a shitload of chances against Liverpool and as unlucky as they were in Paris, a lot of that luck returned on Anfield.

I wouldnt say they conceded lots of chances, in Paris Liverpool had 0.27xG and at Anfield 1.64xG

I hate PSG but atm they are top2 with us

 

[Maradona37]

Its really that simple

Not sure why you are bringing up Neymar and Mbappe when I never said they were great at PSG.

Your argument rests on a massive what IF, that likely will not come to fruition i.e, Dembele LEADING PSG to CL glory.

 

[Maradona37]

I wouldnt say they conceded lots of chances, in Paris Liverpool had 0.27xG and at Anfield 1.64xG

I hate PSG but atm they are top2 with us

Top 2? Are you just basing this on the hype around them? How many times have you watched them in Ligue 1?

Nobody was talking about them until recent weeks. This is knee-jerk as fuck lol.

 

[MonteCuler]

I wouldnt say they conceded lots of chances, in Paris Liverpool had 0.27xG and at Anfield 1.64xG

I hate PSG but atm they are top2 with us

I would say because I watched the game

I know Mendes, Pacho, Kvaratskhelia have all blocked shots that would be going straight in the goal. That Quansah hit the post, Diaz and Darwin wasted a large number of counter attacking opportunities etc etc

They're not invincible and given their history in this competition I think people might be too early with the trophy expectations.

 

[jamrock]

I wouldnt say they conceded lots of chances, in Paris Liverpool had 0.27xG and at Anfield 1.64xG

I hate PSG but atm they are top2 with us

This version of PSG in good from back to front.

No line of there team as an obvious weakness.
Goalkeeper 8/10
Defense 7/10
Midfield 8/10
Attack 7/10.

and dembele as obviously been there best player this season.

Their only issue is not facing top competition on a weekly basis and the lack of a real striker may comeback to haunt them.