Paulo Henrique Ganso
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Robbie
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The BR league will always be 3rd or 4th tier, because they will never be able to grow from having champions league football as competition. Copa Libertadores doesn't even come close. Right now, the players are staying for one reason and one reason only: money. There's more money in it than before, so they can tie down their talented players to long and lucrative contracts.
If Neymar, Ganso, etc had any ambition, they would be doing whatever it takes to play for a European club. If they want to be even close to Ronaldo/Rivaldo/Ronaldinho, they need to face insanely tough competition and step up. Playing around in their little sandbox in Brazil just shows how afraid they are of flopping abroad.
If Neymar, Ganso, etc had any ambition, they would be doing whatever it takes to play for a European club. If they want to be even close to Ronaldo/Rivaldo/Ronaldinho, they need to face insanely tough competition and step up. Playing around in their little sandbox in Brazil just shows how afraid they are of flopping abroad.
Jadentheman
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^ Not their fault. I'm sure they want to go, but when you have clubs like Santos that are greedy and convince the players to stay then yeah. At least Oscar didn't play around in the sandbox for long. And he's doing fairly well at Chelsea I hear
Theconomist
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They are the ones that keep signing contracts. If they wanted to leave they would stop extending their contracts. As a brazilian 20 something superstar the BR league is great, they are more famous than their president. Big parties,easy league. It's the perfect life. There are very few brazilians that play well into their 30s. The stigma around brazilian players that they party too much and retire young didn't come from nothing.
Besides a million in brazil is like 10 in europe.
Besides a million in brazil is like 10 in europe.
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Flavia
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He completed his move to sao paulo. 5 year contract, the fee was around 9 million euros.
Beast
The Observer
Why move to Europe and work hard when now you can make decent money and party half the time and do half the work
Will you do it ? if you are offered a beach job where instead of making 8 Mil you will only make 3 Mil (but the value of those 3 Mil equivalent to the 8 mil in Europe ) a year be around your family , friends and entourage , be worshiped like a hero Even if you are in a shitty form
no language barriers , no shitty weather , no coach will doubt your ability and you are guaranteed to be playing even if your form is 30 % of your actual ability
Nowadays Brazilian are not the same it's better they stay home especially that the economy had boomed
Will you do it ? if you are offered a beach job where instead of making 8 Mil you will only make 3 Mil (but the value of those 3 Mil equivalent to the 8 mil in Europe ) a year be around your family , friends and entourage , be worshiped like a hero Even if you are in a shitty form
no language barriers , no shitty weather , no coach will doubt your ability and you are guaranteed to be playing even if your form is 30 % of your actual ability
Nowadays Brazilian are not the same it's better they stay home especially that the economy had boomed
Jadentheman
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Wow ok. That last line was a generalization
La Furia
Legion of Doooom
Brazil is pretty damn expensive, especially Sao Paulo.
http://www.mercer.com/costoflivingpr
This ranking has Sao Paulo the 12th most expensive cost of living in the world, of course depending on your criteria I'm not convinced that it's always more expensive than say London, but no city in Spain is on this list for a reason.
Beast
The Observer
Pepe Silvia
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there is also no middle class in sao paulo, and with the huge population, the cost of living means nothing w the astronomical poverty rates there.
La Furia
Legion of Doooom
Well that's really not true at all, the Brazilian middle class has grown exponentially over the past ten years especially in Sao Paolo, the poverty rate is still far higher than it would be in Europe but the cost of living is still very high within the nice parts of the city. Sao Paolo is the business capital of Brazil meaning the wealthy have no choice but to live there, which means $$$$$.
Some of the most expensive cities in the world are in countries poorer than Brazil, when you have a small but very rich population prices are going to be high due to low demand. Argentina even with horrible inflation right now is cheaper for the rich than Brazil, Chile and Venezuela despite relative equality (relative being key) and a more established middle class.
I don't know where you ge the no middle class idea from, Sao Paulo is basically the ultimate case study of the so called new middle class.
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Pepe Silvia
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well why not call it what it really is a "new" middle class since most of the millions that were in poverty before are emerging due to the country's growth. and lets not pretend sao paulo districts are really nice places to live. most are crack infested dens who share the places with the super rich businessmen. the inequality there is still quite ridiculous but yes the middle class has since boomed since the 80s-90s.
La Furia
Legion of Doooom
Well it sort of started in the 80s but the boom really took off under Cardoso during the mid 90s and especially under Lula in the 00s, the last decade growth has been dramatic.
I agree that there's poverty everywhere but most of the worst favelas are supposedly on the outskirts, Sao Paulo is far more of a sprawling city than say Rio. Some of the most luxurious neighborhoods in the world might not be too far removed from poverty there but the violence and all that is not what it once was. Of course there's still plenty of it, but it's not effecting the cities prices, that's for sure. I would bet your money could go a lot further in parts of Spain right now than southern Brazil.
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