Pedro Rodriguez

Paganinisrvnge

New member
I like Pedro but he along with Pique and even Xavi have been below their incredibly high standard set from 2008-2011 for 2 seasons now. Only a fool would deny that Messi, Iniesta, and at times Fabregas have been our best players in the past 2 seasons. Pedro is a hard worker but we need a decent amount of goals from him if he's going to play that much. I'm not saying a lot but something like 12 to 15 a season would be great if Alexis and Neymar can match that.
 

Zebulun

Senior Member
sad to see what happened with this player, under pep he was deadly and scored from everywhere, now. he's just a right wing back that covers alves arse! SMH
 

Trickykid

Active member
sad to see what happened with this player, under pep he was deadly and scored from everywhere, now. he's just a right wing back that covers alves arse! SMH

During Pep's last season, Pedro had already stagnated severely (at least goal scoring wise), so it's not like his mojo just disappeared along with Pep.
 

BerkeleyBernie

Senior Member
It took him a long time to recover from the major injury he had.

Interesting piece on Slate looking at the recent history of wingers at Barça, and what's in store for Neymar:

http://www.slate.com/articles/sport...atest_player_and_barcelona_s_new_prodigy.html

I don't agree with everything in the piece (especially "Messi is also the best player in the world during the 98 percent of the game when he doesn't have the ball"), but it does a good job of showing how Barça has worked ever since Messi demanded to play CF and pushed Ibra to the wing.
 

Zebulun

Senior Member
well what your saying is true but what i was alluding to, was the fact that pedro works so hard on defense when in fact that is not his primary job. he works so hard tracking back covering the line that when its time to attack he's tired from now hassling a winger/counter attack and now has to run up to attack which IMO is not fair to him. I play football not professionally but i've experienced that before. it takes everyone to attack and defend successfully. Currently Barca's wingers press extra hard to compensate for the lack of pressing from the middle, that's why when messi/ who ever is in the middle loses the ball its automatically a super dangerous counter attack through the middle and or/ to the wings because everyone knows alves will push up and its easy to run past xavi and iniesta without being challenged.
 

footyfan

Calma, calma
It does a good job of showing how Barça has worked ever since Messi demanded to play CF and pushed Ibra to the wing.

Messi didn't push Ibra to the wing, he started occupying the same spaces in the middle more regularly and this choked Ibra of service because everyone knew who the better player was and who to pass to.

A lot of people seem to have forgotten how Barca played in 09-10. One of my favorite seasons, gorgeous through balls from Xavi and insane dribbling from Messi
 

Jaykob

New member
It took him a long time to recover from the major injury he had.

Interesting piece on Slate looking at the recent history of wingers at Barça, and what's in store for Neymar:

http://www.slate.com/articles/sport...atest_player_and_barcelona_s_new_prodigy.html

I don't agree with everything in the piece (especially "Messi is also the best player in the world during the 98 percent of the game when he doesn't have the ball"), but it does a good job of showing how Barça has worked ever since Messi demanded to play CF and pushed Ibra to the wing.


Really good article, thank you .

Sums up well some of the potential problems, also the Laporta Rosell and Cruyff relationship.

The single most important thing Laporta did right while being president was to listen to Cruyff
 

Kerrybai

New member
Everyone is entitled to their opinion I quite agree. However, just slagging off a player without actually thinking it through is actually very tedious for the rest of the posters. Try and at least back up what you say, rather than this I don't like x, y or z because of the colour of their hair. It borders on the immature. We are 3 games into the season, the guy has one mediocre game and it's get rid of Pedro!

This isn't a computer game.

My apologies if I came across a bit strong :beer2:

And you are right people should back up their criticism. Pedro is a very good player, I think most people here recognize that, but for me personally he no longer suits our style of play. He needs space to be at his best and he no longer gets that space. For me he doesn't have the necessary skills to break down 'parked buses'.

Some tactical alterations could see him back at his best, but right now under our current system I'd like to see Tello get a run out ahead of him.
 

Qonny

New member
Some tactical alterations could see him back at his best, but right now under our current system I'd like to see Tello get a run out ahead of him.

Tello requires even more space to be able to perform to the best of his abilities. I think we need more pure striker-type wingers, like Suarez and Cavani, who can both play on the wings.
 

Meitux

Active member
It has worked the best with those kind of players, center forwards who are comfortable of playing in the wing, but wingers who are able of doing something similar too. You can't demand goals and creativity of something better from players like Pedro or Alexis because they are simply not the right players to do it, they are supportive players.

But after all of you people defending Pedro's bad performances and his unability of scoring and generally his image don't come out and say that we are depending every time on Messi.. It's the system that doesn't fit those players.
 
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Beans

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Tello requires even more space to be able to perform to the best of his abilities. I think we need more pure striker-type wingers, like Suarez and Cavani, who can both play on the wings.

They're not, they're centre-forwards, and neither would join Barcelona if they were told they'd be playing out wide.
 

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