Boris
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He sure looks like a full back when attacking
Pedro Rodriguez
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CatalinR10
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raskolnikov
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turning into superpedro again for Spain.
ZenI
Professor Balthazar
Haha, true dat
The last 2 years he has scored 11 goals in 16 appearances for the NT, ffs Pedro!
evilhita666
Barçapocalypse NOW!
Pedro said it himself, he scores for Spain more often because he gets more space, which comes as no surprise... He has different tasks at Barca and someone else to score the goals, so I'm not bothered at all...
BerkeleyBernie
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Another thing I like about Pedrito: he always seems to be having the most fun of any Barça player, the only one who ever cracks a smile at times other than after a goal is scored. A touch of Ronaldinho spirit (without the partying ).
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Irish_Cules
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This is true to an extent but it doesn't explain him missing chances while playing for Barca such as the one-on-one header he had against Valencia at the weekend.
BerkeleyBernie
Senior Member
Yeah, and Messi missed three "sitters" in the 6 yard box- he sucks!
Complaining about little Pedro mis-directing a header a bit past the post? OMG- how many times does anyone his size on Barça find himself at the end of a header? He actually did it exactly right, trying to put it inside the post, and quite a decent effort.
He also did a great reflex job trying to redirect a fast pass inside the 6-yard box, either to put it in the net at the far post, or have a teammate knock it in. No teammate arrived in time.
The one spot I thought he made the wrong choice was Messi's chest pass to him- he should have taken it out of the air, and the defenders beat him to the bounce. He didn't anticipate them closing so fast.
Jadentheman
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Yeah, and Messi missed three "sitters" in the 6 yard box- he sucks!
Complaining about little Pedro mis-directing a header a bit past the post? OMG- how many times does anyone his size on Barça find himself at the end of a header? He actually did it exactly right, trying to put it inside the post, and quite a decent effort.
He also did a great reflex job trying to redirect a fast pass inside the 6-yard box, either to put it in the net at the far post, or have a teammate knock it in. No teammate arrived in time.
The one spot I thought he made the wrong choice was Messi's chest pass to him- he should have taken it out of the air, and the defenders beat him to the bounce. He didn't anticipate them closing so fast.
what are your excuses for Pedro? Besides of being unable to score which is one thing that our system demands tell me exactly what positive does he brings? I can't believe people still defend him after 2 years of being purely average and below than that still continuing the same way. If it's difficult for him to do it for Barcelona then he's not enough for this team and below this Barcelona's class.. I don't really find the national team as an excuse for IF he performs like this for us. If he can't perform which he didn't do for a long time just bench him or let him go.
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BerkeleyBernie
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Do you really think you see something Barça coaches don't? Maybe it's the other way around- they see something *you* don't. And you've got it wrong- him scoring is the one thing the system *doesn't* demand (if that was the main criteria, they'd have benched Pedro and bought a Di Maria winger and play counterattack all the time). Villa provided less scoring on the wing for the same reason Pedro doesn't- it's not the way Barça's attack is designed.
The Barça system is an attrition system- wear the opponent down, don't let them have the ball, find the cracks, and take high percentage shots from close range in the middle. Pedro is the perfect player in this system- he wears the opponent down, stingy/conservative in possession, excellent technical player, fine passer, presses like crazy to regain possession, tricky, good vision. He fits for the same reason Cesc has had a hard time fitting.
Some people are also living in the past, when Pep's Barça steamrolled opponents with shock and awe. Barça is now known and few teams will take them on much outside their own box. Against relatively strong teams, scores are going to be low and close- opponents play Barça with the goal of preventing Barça from scoring (and with little regard to scoring themselves). Barça will win those games 1-0, 2-1, or possibly even draw some of them. Barça is a victim of its own success, and (with the exception of the focus point of its attack through the middle, Messi) players' goal tallies will suffer.
For myself, I watch Barça precisely *because* it is a technical team that tries to build team goals through a maze of opponents. There is obviously a contingent here that wants to see more Cesc, more direct, more risky attack. The question is how much- too much risk, and Barça is no longer Barça. It's football, but it's not the Barça brand of football, not much different than any other decent team. You might be able to make your Coke to taste more like Pepsi, but if you want it to taste like 7-Up, some of the ingredients just won't fit.
If you want Barça to stay close to its unique recipe, then Pedro is a useful component. If you want fresh and fizzy 7-Up, then maybe Pedro isn't the player for that recipe.
This false 9 system does work with players than score and create much danger. There's a huge difference with 2008-2009 with Eto'o and 2010-2011 with Villa and Pedro who could score back then. Players like Pedro or Alexis aren't the right ones to move around that system, they would only work being used as winger and don't involve too much. This whole system right now is based almost tottaly on Messi, they are the ones to support around him. It's already proved that without Messi our attack lacks someone to take charge of the attack and create chances. We didn't rely on one player back in time, i can't know for sure if Neymar is the player who could make things happen if Messi isn't there but that wasn't the case with Henry and Eto'o in any means. You compared Pedro with Villa in a moment that Villa isn't the same player anymore that doesn't make Pedro look good, they are different type of players and someone who is comfortable of playing in the wing and has the skills of doing something better drifting into the centre is more usefull than someone who is used only to build the game around one perso and whenever he's give the chances he fails.
And i don't care of staying faithful to one system because it was succesfull in the past, you need development and refresh as the times come. You talk about it but you don't remember that it worked with tottaly different kind of players and not wingers. If it's only about Messi doing everything and whenever we rely on the other of our attackers to do something and can't do it then go ahaid and buy a center forward. This system only works as i said with players that will all involve in game and make things, not players who would be supportive to one player and whenever this player (Messi) doesn't play be tootheless upfront. They are those kind of players that are supportive that's why they don't fit into this system.
You may don't find that we are tottaly depending on Messi in La Liga matches with small weak teams because of scorline. Judging of the space given it's easy to do it. In a big game we already saw Messi getting closed up or not play and neither of them Pedro and Alexis created something that someone other like Henry or Eto'o could do back then because simply they are not the players to rely on doing it.
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Pedro and sanchez can not make things happen by themselves;the only excuse for them still playing for us is work-rate.The reason why it is easier for team to stop us now is because they know messi is our attack;if you can stop him then u've stopped our attack because alexis and pedro are just work-rater and nothing more. The reason why bayern were that good last season is because they had up to four players or more capable of scoring,so goals were coming from any angle,any situation so they had no specific danger man. Our attack is not great;messi is.messi or false 9 is not the reason why wingers are not scoring instead they are the reason he is scoring less because of their ineffectiveness team focus on him more
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