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Bale loan deal is a success, for us.
BarcaOG
Banned
Explain--you're still paying for some of his wages and Spurs won't buy him. He'll be back and he'll still be a problem.
Simple, Spurs are paying half(?) of his wages for a year, better than anybody else would have done.
serghei
Senior Member
Bale is a success no doubt. 3 key goals in 2 CL finals when the score was 1-1 is high-level impact. Imagine Coutinho scores a golazo away on Anfield and brings us a CL. Now imagine he did that twice and we win 2 CLs.
Hazard is a flopped transfer. James is another flopped transfer.
Hazard is a flopped transfer. James is another flopped transfer.
El Gato
Villarato!
This !!! Thats what i saying all time to Wolfe but he doesnt want to understand it
No. Not what you're saying. You called the player a flop. Which he isn't. Nothing to do with what Villarrubi wrote.
Talk about a projection. Where did I imply either?
Also FOH with Bale, dude scored 100 goals!
te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
No. Not what you're saying. You called the player a flop. Which he isn't. Nothing to do with what Villarrubi wrote.
Talk about a projection. Where did I imply either?
Also FOH with Bale, dude scored 100 goals!
From what I've seen, Madrid fans are pretty unanimous that Hazard is a flop. Are you being contrarian for the sake of it?
BarcaOG
Banned
No. Not what you're saying. You called the player a flop. Which he isn't. Nothing to do with what Villarrubi wrote.
Talk about a projection. Where did I imply either?
Also FOH with Bale, dude scored 100 goals!
Ok--then how would you assess Hazard's transfer? Neutral?
And gain, I didn't mean Bale's initial transfer from Spurs to Real.
El Gato
Villarato!
I mean, the latter doesn't have much to do with the conversation being had does it? And Bale's transfer to Spurs this summer has been a good thing for Real no question, less wage burden even if not permanent.
Yes, Hazard transfer is yet to play out. If there's any comparison to be made, it's not Bale but Kaka. Much like Hazard a #2 player who shouldn't be asked to score and bought for a far better balanced squad. Hazard is twice as unlucky as he was with injury + 3x worse attacking teammates, just compare Ronaldo, Raul, Higuain, final season Van Nistelrooy (+ young and shite Benzema) to current (old and shite) Benzema, Mariano, Jović who doesn't play, Asensio, 2 Brazillian kids and the 3rd best offensive player being either Fede or Modrić.
Kaka, widely considered a terrible investment due to mounting injury issues even from his Milan days made purely for marketing, recorded 10+ assists in any season where he played at least 1500 minutes. Because of how much better the situation was to facilitate results.
If we buy anyone this transfer window (not likely unless money raised) and Hazard isn't unlucky + fixtures aren't mad making our already garbage fitness team even poorer at keeping the squad healthy, Hazard should produce no problem.
Do not understand the Villarrubi 'so far' argument.
So far Real Madrid are forced to be rubbish due to Covid. So far only the people who think Hazard was bought to replace CR on the pitch claim 'so far' he's a failure. Very poor take that strips the kind of player Hazard is and what he needs in order to be successful from context.
Consider Pogba to United for identical hyped image of a 'superstar' bought for a bucket of cash expected to 'transform' a shit side. Never was the player to do it, never deserved the amount of abuse he used to get back then. He always was exactly what was said on the tin and some sections of fans felt they've been lied to. Err, no? It's what he was always going to be - needs a squad shaped such that they do a lot of work for him as he chips in with a bit. Was it wrong to buy him at the time? That's a very different conversation.
Yes, Hazard transfer is yet to play out. If there's any comparison to be made, it's not Bale but Kaka. Much like Hazard a #2 player who shouldn't be asked to score and bought for a far better balanced squad. Hazard is twice as unlucky as he was with injury + 3x worse attacking teammates, just compare Ronaldo, Raul, Higuain, final season Van Nistelrooy (+ young and shite Benzema) to current (old and shite) Benzema, Mariano, Jović who doesn't play, Asensio, 2 Brazillian kids and the 3rd best offensive player being either Fede or Modrić.
Kaka, widely considered a terrible investment due to mounting injury issues even from his Milan days made purely for marketing, recorded 10+ assists in any season where he played at least 1500 minutes. Because of how much better the situation was to facilitate results.
If we buy anyone this transfer window (not likely unless money raised) and Hazard isn't unlucky + fixtures aren't mad making our already garbage fitness team even poorer at keeping the squad healthy, Hazard should produce no problem.
Do not understand the Villarrubi 'so far' argument.
So far Real Madrid are forced to be rubbish due to Covid. So far only the people who think Hazard was bought to replace CR on the pitch claim 'so far' he's a failure. Very poor take that strips the kind of player Hazard is and what he needs in order to be successful from context.
Consider Pogba to United for identical hyped image of a 'superstar' bought for a bucket of cash expected to 'transform' a shit side. Never was the player to do it, never deserved the amount of abuse he used to get back then. He always was exactly what was said on the tin and some sections of fans felt they've been lied to. Err, no? It's what he was always going to be - needs a squad shaped such that they do a lot of work for him as he chips in with a bit. Was it wrong to buy him at the time? That's a very different conversation.
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Fati_Future_BallonDor
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James is a difficult case, yeah he wasnt as good as expected but he played a very important role in 14/15 Real madrid even though they won nothing and crucial for la liga title win in 16/17 with his goals and assists.
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