UberNjufer
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who doesn't need cash?Better that than riots though which may actually be hard to avoid,hopefully without escalating in something worse.
And how is this in pep thread
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And how is this in pep thread
Rosell (president): "If Catalonia would be independent, Barcelona sure would continue to play in the Liga, like Monaco in the French league"
Corb
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There's an interesting article in the Financial Times from 12th of Septembre about this: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/cd7d63ee-fcdc-11e1-9dd2-00144feabdc0.html#axzz26LJbu5Eo
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The eurozone crisis has brought down more than one government but until now it has not called into question the survival of the nation state itself. Yet that is what appears to be happening in Spain, a development dramatised by this week’s outpouring of separatist fervour in Catalonia.
On Tuesday, up to 1.5m Catalans rallied in the streets of Barcelona behind the slogan “Catalonia, a new state in Europe”. The plurinational Spain, built upon a highly devolved system of regional government after the end of the Franco dictatorship, now risks break-up.
The eurozone crisis is partly to blame. It has mercilessly exposed the fragility of Spain’s fiscal arrangements. In this case, the relatively rich Catalans are outraged that they have to contribute up to 9 per cent of annual economic output to the central pot in Madrid, but then go cap-in-hand for a bailout to meet their debt and payroll commitments. Catalonia wants fiscal autonomy: the right to collect its own taxes like the Basques, who contribute proportionally much less to Spanish coffers.
Yet Spain, where prime minister Mariano Rajoy is agonising over whether to seek a full eurozone bailout, needs Catalan fiscal transfers to meets its pensions and welfare liabilities. Mr Rajoy’s rightwing Partido Popular government, which is ideologically hostile to devolution, is trying to use the crisis to recentralise Spain, creating a dangerous cocktail of fiscal penury and national grievance.
More than half of Catalonia’s citizens now believe its future is in peril if they remain tied to a Spanish state they feel can no longer accommodate their own sense of nationhood. By contrast, Spanish nationalists disdain Basque and Catalan identity as narcissism, and regard the unity of Spain as sacred.
Both sides need to realise that mainstream nationalism has been outflanked in Catalonia. Artur Mas, the Catalan president, has a decisive meeting with Mr Rajoy next week. He will demand fiscal autonomy, either as the bridge to enhanced home rule or a building block for full independence.
Ideally, both leaders would agree on a better fiscal model, which would include fairer transfers from richer to poorer regions. This should be explored – but not now, when the priority must be to address the economic emergency. Mr Mas will more probably come away empty-handed, and call an early election that will become a referendum on Catalan independence. A constitutional crisis looms
The eurozone crisis has brought down more than one government but until now it has not called into question the survival of the nation state itself. Yet that is what appears to be happening in Spain, a development dramatised by this week’s outpouring of separatist fervour in Catalonia.
On Tuesday, up to 1.5m Catalans rallied in the streets of Barcelona behind the slogan “Catalonia, a new state in Europe”. The plurinational Spain, built upon a highly devolved system of regional government after the end of the Franco dictatorship, now risks break-up.
The eurozone crisis is partly to blame. It has mercilessly exposed the fragility of Spain’s fiscal arrangements. In this case, the relatively rich Catalans are outraged that they have to contribute up to 9 per cent of annual economic output to the central pot in Madrid, but then go cap-in-hand for a bailout to meet their debt and payroll commitments. Catalonia wants fiscal autonomy: the right to collect its own taxes like the Basques, who contribute proportionally much less to Spanish coffers.
Yet Spain, where prime minister Mariano Rajoy is agonising over whether to seek a full eurozone bailout, needs Catalan fiscal transfers to meets its pensions and welfare liabilities. Mr Rajoy’s rightwing Partido Popular government, which is ideologically hostile to devolution, is trying to use the crisis to recentralise Spain, creating a dangerous cocktail of fiscal penury and national grievance.
More than half of Catalonia’s citizens now believe its future is in peril if they remain tied to a Spanish state they feel can no longer accommodate their own sense of nationhood. By contrast, Spanish nationalists disdain Basque and Catalan identity as narcissism, and regard the unity of Spain as sacred.
Both sides need to realise that mainstream nationalism has been outflanked in Catalonia. Artur Mas, the Catalan president, has a decisive meeting with Mr Rajoy next week. He will demand fiscal autonomy, either as the bridge to enhanced home rule or a building block for full independence.
Ideally, both leaders would agree on a better fiscal model, which would include fairer transfers from richer to poorer regions. This should be explored – but not now, when the priority must be to address the economic emergency. Mr Mas will more probably come away empty-handed, and call an early election that will become a referendum on Catalan independence. A constitutional crisis looms
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Poor_Sunyol
In Lucho we trust!
Catalunya is not in great shape financially at the moment though, didn't they have to get a bail out from the Spanish Government?
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Poor_Sunyol
In Lucho we trust!
Wow. I didn't know that bit. I was told about it last month when I was on holiday on the Costa Blanca near Mar Menor. Funnily enough he was a Madrid fan...
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Flavia
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Rosell told md barça would still play in la liga, like monaco plays on ligue 1.
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La LL
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It was always one of my biggest fears that if Catalunya became independent Barça would have to play in a catalan league, which they would dominate until the end times.
Good to see we'll hang around in La Liga.
goope
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Capello (ex-coach Milan): "Guardiola did something that's even bigger than Mourinho's work: he invented. In football that's very difficult."
Edit:
Guardiola is renting a flat in the Ardsley building in New York, where X-Files and Californication actor David Duchovny also lives. [nyp] @barcastuff
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-...a=X&ei=1NVSUJPPIcvEswajvICwAQ&ved=0CCEQ8gEwAA
View attachment 6030 La Furia's face when he sits in front of the building 24/7 until Christmas
Edit:
Guardiola is renting a flat in the Ardsley building in New York, where X-Files and Californication actor David Duchovny also lives. [nyp] @barcastuff
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-...a=X&ei=1NVSUJPPIcvEswajvICwAQ&ved=0CCEQ8gEwAA
View attachment 6030 La Furia's face when he sits in front of the building 24/7 until Christmas
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XaviMessiGirl
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Photos of Pep's flat in NY.
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/pazzosport/photogallery/7288/pep-ecco-la-casa-di-ny.shtml
Nice stuff. Jealous
http://www.sportmediaset.mediaset.it/pazzosport/photogallery/7288/pep-ecco-la-casa-di-ny.shtml
Nice stuff. Jealous
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