Pep Guardiola

[zealot]

Hypocrisy at it's best.

Is he saying that he failed the team or that the team failed him? If it's the second (and I think it is) then it is definitely a slap in the face to the team that gave him everything. He should just stop talking about Barca, he's making it worse with each comment.

I think the first option is more likely.

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[Alissa]

I think the first option is more likely.

Maybe, it's probably a mix of both in the end. But see that's the problem, why put yourself in a position where words can be misinterpreted? Maybe he just loves the drama, I always thought he was sort of a drama queen.

 

[FCBarca]

Sounds like there are plenty of drama queens in the forum

 

[Maria]

Ok, hypocrisy was maybe a too strong word, but my point still stands. Bayern is a strong team and if they win the CL this year, that's two CLs in a row, let's see whether he'll be able to motivate those players after that.

And why would that make a difference for everything he lived at Barca?

Guess what? I read the whole interview. Now what?

You said:

Is he saying that he failed the team or that the team failed him? If it's the second (and I think it is) then it is definitely a slap in the face to the team that gave him everything.

When Pep clearly states in his interview:
"I found it increasingly difficult to motivate both myself and my team."

So how did you come to the conclusion that he says that the team failed him?

And I will just ignore the third question.

Why?

 

[Alissa]

Maria,

How did I come to that conclusion? Here's how:

"That was a really tough defeat for me. I felt like I could no longer reach my team" - His fault or team's fault? Definitely up for interpretation.
He had won everything there as a player and a coach. "I noticed that the team was finding it increasingly difficult." - Team's fault.

 

[Maria]

Maria,

How did I come to that conclusion? Here's how:

"That was a really tough defeat for me. I felt like I could no longer reach my team" - His fault or team's fault? Definitely up for interpretation.
He had won everything there as a player and a coach. "I noticed that the team was finding it increasingly difficult." - Team's fault.

Honestly, when he clearly said that it was also difficult for him, I think that at this point the discussion is useless.

 

[Alissa]

Honestly, when he clearly said that it was also difficult for him, I think that at this point the discussion is useless.

Agreed.

 

[Devils]

Again..why do people keep forgetting that he signed with Bayern in December 2012, not June 2013?

Aside from the fact that they were already dominating in the league during that time period, it doesn't take a genius to realize just how much better Bayern's squad is than every other team in the bundesliga where majority of the games are played during a season.

You mean the players who couldn't wait to say that they were sclave to a style(Pique, Mascherano, Alves), who criticized his tactics(Cesc) or said that Tito's Barca is better than Pep's. And then there are Barca's directors..or have you forgot aboout "Tito has already surpassed Pep, as a coach and as a person"? Honestly I don't understand how after all this there are cules who can even complain about anything that Pep has to say.
And if they played their heart and soul for someone or something, it was for the club that made them the best paid players in the world.

Oh please, none of the players criticized Pep, it was more of a praise towards Tito during a very difficult time for the club. OBVIOUSLY the players are going to have to push some positivity out of the situation when greatest coach in the history of the club was leaving during a period of difficult transition. You also discount how many times players have said its unfair to compare Barca post-pep to his time because of how great of a coach Pep was and how he made the team amazing. Hell, Cesc said it last week.

This was Camp Nou in Pep's first league games..but I guess most of the cules wouldn't actually know in what situation we were when he became our coach. But then I read about how bad the crowd at Camp Nou is treating Martino now..

This is trivial, this isn't a situation where the 'going get's tough', he had barely started yet lol.

 

[Gooch]

Pep's just a human being, not perfect, and he has his own thoughts and idiosyncrasies. I, personally, value Barca only for its football art and its "more than a club" vision. So I wouldn't have left Barca, and if I did, it would be for a small club somewhere where I could practice my art, not for just another club like Bayern.

But Pep seems to be into 'motivation', 'challenge', etc.

 

[zealot]

Sounds like there are plenty of drama queens in the forum

Exactly dude, exactly.

Reading these posts from Maria and Alissa (this is for example my friends, I'm talking in general referring to the forum board) gave me the impression that I missed a LOT of things.

I mean, gotta admit that I probably have not followed the media very well throughout the years, but I think I did stumbled upon many of those statements from the players mentioned here. I never could imagine, or interprate with such negativity, meanwhile collecting all little details about what had been said to justify the thoughts. I really thought, well, they had a tough season, comprising some disagreements regarding tactics in the locker room (disagreements are common in any job mind you, not just in a football locker room) and finally, when Pep felt he isn't fit enough to train anymore, he just quit.

To me my friends, he is such a great guy, when he told us he would renew only on yearly basis so that he could immediately leave when he feels right. And in the end he did just that, and personally I really appreciate that. Pep's a hero to me

Oh and Alissa questioned why Pep wanna put himself in a position that could be misunderstood. Well my answer is probably people ask questions about it. Pep could have shut up, but honestly Pep also can response as he pleases. Considering his time with us was such a ride, well, probably he had problems to express himself properly, but I believe his thoughts about his time here is all positive. He cherishes his time here. He should.

 

[FCBarca]

The world weeps at how poorly people reason, zealot

 

[Alissa]

Wow. Ehm. I'll just laugh at this and move on.

 

[coura]

Maria,

How did I come to that conclusion? Here's how:

"That was a really tough defeat for me. I felt like I could no longer reach my team" - His fault or team's fault? Definitely up for interpretation.
He had won everything there as a player and a coach. "I noticed that the team was finding it increasingly difficult." - Team's fault.

He ran away from Mou stupid mind games.

 

[Maria]

According to MD's director, he ran because his relationship with the players was very bad and because he wanted to have all the glory to himself. And Tito and the players have made it clear who are the real responsables for Barca's glory since 2008 when they made 100 pts in La Liga. So I don't understand why you would still want to have this man as Barca's coach.

Aside from the fact that they were already dominating in the league during that time period, it doesn't take a genius to realize just how much better Bayern's squad is than every other team in the bundesliga where majority of the games are played during a season.

You were talking about motivation, about how he chose a treble winning team and I was only pointing that they weren't that team when he signed with Bayern..the Bayern's squad is a whole different discussion.

Oh please, none of the players criticized Pep, it was more of a praise towards Tito during a very difficult time for the club. OBVIOUSLY the players are going to have to push some positivity out of the situation when greatest coach in the history of the club was leaving during a period of difficult transition. You also discount how many times players have said its unfair to compare Barca post-pep to his time because of how great of a coach Pep was and how he made the team amazing. Hell, Cesc said it last week.

I've heard from the players 100 times that is unfair to compare this team with the one Pep had, but the only one I remember talking about Pep as being the difference is Xavi. Cesc has complained about Pep when he left and about Tito when he left and now said that only with Tata he has the freedom he wants. And most of the things about which I talked about were said this season, not last, so it's not about the players "going to have to push some positivity out of the situation when greatest coach in the history of the club was leaving during a period of difficult transition".
And it's fine fine by me..they have the obligation to support and listen to the coach, no matter who that person is, but I can't buy into "all of the players still had tremendous faith and respect towards him" when I read things like "Pep had made us slaves to a system" or when I saw what they did to Rijkaard.

 

[JackaL]

By the way, congrats! Do not forget that he was one of the main responsibles for Barca's and football's greatest era! If u can't acknowledge that - whether as a barca fan or not - there is another reason for that. Just look how the passing game had changed and evolved, how teams defend. It is part of a bigger picture where Barca and Pep have played the biggest role in!