Pep Guardiola
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ceefoo
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The same Ancelotti who's Milan team were 3-nil up at half time against Liverpool and bottled it?
.... the SAME Simeone that plays dirty and defensive, "win at all costs" football?
Tito would be SO proud.
Stric
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Wuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
MrXavi_The_Midfield_King
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Feel sorry for him, he will get slaughtered by the Bayern hierarchy, I hope he learns from what has transpired. Still a very young coach and I am sure he will learn a valuable lesson from tonight
F1_STK
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After that issue with Tito, I don't care too much to see him back again.
The possibility of Tito passing away with his heart being hurt so much by his behaviour, makes me so angry.
He didn't even go to Barcelona these days.
Something has broken inside me.
Sorry for my bad English.
The possibility of Tito passing away with his heart being hurt so much by his behaviour, makes me so angry.
He didn't even go to Barcelona these days.
Something has broken inside me.
Sorry for my bad English.
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Flavia
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Pep visited Tito months ago... they had made peace.
F1_STK
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I read that their relationship was not as good as it was in the past...
Devils
Senior Member
You live and your learn. 
Utterly destroyed by Real Madrid of all teams. This has to sting Pep on many levels.
The German media will turn on him after this and I'm sure some the Bayern hierarchy will as well. I never expected him to reach the levels he did at Barca, but I feel bad for him on this one.
I remember Sir Alex said that he believes that Pep should stay at Barca because they both compliment each other very well, I believe this is true.
Utterly destroyed by Real Madrid of all teams. This has to sting Pep on many levels.
The German media will turn on him after this and I'm sure some the Bayern hierarchy will as well. I never expected him to reach the levels he did at Barca, but I feel bad for him on this one.
I remember Sir Alex said that he believes that Pep should stay at Barca because they both compliment each other very well, I believe this is true.
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Flavia
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No way to know that. We can only speculate. Pepe might have been mad at him for staying at Barça when he left. Might've felt betrayed by Tito. Then Tito got sick and Pep didn't visit him in NY... Those things change a relationship. All we really know is that they made peace when Pepe visited him, as he said so to the press.
DonAndres
Wild Man of Borneo
There have been massive overreactions and overassumptions because of the loss but Pep was annihilated today, no other way of putting it. The disrespect he's getting is kind of surprising though, coming from cules.
Of course, this is the opportunity for underground haters to rise up and voice opinions they held back while he was successful.
He needs a tactical growth. If he's going to stick with his philosophy, he's going to have to take an approach FAR different from what he's done today (nightmare choices). Mandzukic is nothing but a 'wait for the ball' target man who doesn't participate in any team transition, disrupting unity which should be and always was a key part of Pep's system. Sticking physical yet not technical players like Schweinsteiger and Kroos to run a midfield that's trying to dominate a game, having no DM to give a natural balance, etc. All of these are horrible decisions.
Bayern would've been much better had they fielded a trio of: Kroos-Martinez-Lahm or if he hadn't gotten injured, Thiago-Martinez-Lahm. Schweinsteiger is in total turd form and in all honesty, is much more of an engine for vertical attacking football than the base for tiki-taka. Lahm has the workrate and technique to succeed in a box-to-box role but as a lone CDM to give a backbone to play? No way. Martinez gives this in a 4-3-3 (or 4-1-4-1) and that would be the most balanced Bayern side (with a lot of other improvements though).
And to those who talk about tiki taka being dead are really not disproving anything except for the fact that possession football is dead. Sure, Bayern play with a lot of short passes but to actually classify that itself as what made the Barca system so successful for 4 years is ridiculous. The fact that the midfield setup was completely wrong and screwed them in both attack and defense only tells part of the story. Over the past month, Bayern's attack phase has turned to fuck all. The moment they reach the point where they should accelerate to create chances, they turn into a line of midfielders behind RM's midfield shield + lonely Mandzukic way up top serving no purpose. The fact that they break shape like that shows some sort of dysfunction in the attacking system. The slowing down also forces them to commit too many players forward and leave a backline to get slaughtered on the counter. Issues arise all over when a team doesn't stay true to their team shape, hence being tactically outclassed by Ancelotti and Madrid.
Of course, this is the opportunity for underground haters to rise up and voice opinions they held back while he was successful.
He needs a tactical growth. If he's going to stick with his philosophy, he's going to have to take an approach FAR different from what he's done today (nightmare choices). Mandzukic is nothing but a 'wait for the ball' target man who doesn't participate in any team transition, disrupting unity which should be and always was a key part of Pep's system. Sticking physical yet not technical players like Schweinsteiger and Kroos to run a midfield that's trying to dominate a game, having no DM to give a natural balance, etc. All of these are horrible decisions.
Bayern would've been much better had they fielded a trio of: Kroos-Martinez-Lahm or if he hadn't gotten injured, Thiago-Martinez-Lahm. Schweinsteiger is in total turd form and in all honesty, is much more of an engine for vertical attacking football than the base for tiki-taka. Lahm has the workrate and technique to succeed in a box-to-box role but as a lone CDM to give a backbone to play? No way. Martinez gives this in a 4-3-3 (or 4-1-4-1) and that would be the most balanced Bayern side (with a lot of other improvements though).
And to those who talk about tiki taka being dead are really not disproving anything except for the fact that possession football is dead. Sure, Bayern play with a lot of short passes but to actually classify that itself as what made the Barca system so successful for 4 years is ridiculous. The fact that the midfield setup was completely wrong and screwed them in both attack and defense only tells part of the story. Over the past month, Bayern's attack phase has turned to fuck all. The moment they reach the point where they should accelerate to create chances, they turn into a line of midfielders behind RM's midfield shield + lonely Mandzukic way up top serving no purpose. The fact that they break shape like that shows some sort of dysfunction in the attacking system. The slowing down also forces them to commit too many players forward and leave a backline to get slaughtered on the counter. Issues arise all over when a team doesn't stay true to their team shape, hence being tactically outclassed by Ancelotti and Madrid.
F1_STK
Member
I hope so. But the fact that he didn't visited him at hospital when he was in New York, is a very bad one. As I said, it was very weird that he didn't go to Barcelona these days.
Please stop saying Pepe my friend, it dooesn't seem so good
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Since when do we call Pep Pepe? What an insult
Yeah, that still confuses me. Pep had so much free time over there, and Tito clearly needed him, so why not visit Tito more? Strange.
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Flavia
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I blame switfkey
I'm sure I deleted "pepe" from the auto correction, though.
I'm sure I deleted "pepe" from the auto correction, though.
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