Pep Guardiola

[Sterlingfan2000]

He should move to City , then Messi can nutmeg him also.

 

[Stric]

3 years at Bayern vs. 4 at Barcelona. #loyalty

 

[MaxY]

Inb4 Pep coaches RM in the future

 

[Jenks]

Good. I have no love for Bayern, so I'm glad he's leaving. Then again, City isn't much better to be honest, but I bet he'll pick them, as they're easy choice.

If he wants the easy choice then he'll go to PSG, surely?

 

[JackaL]

It is seriously hard to cope with football fans' ignorance, not only in fora such as these but also on other platforms. One wonders where their moral high ground comes from and what kind of facts or arguments their opinions are based on. It seems so silly to tell somebody that he took an "easy" challenge, first of all, it is not "easy" to be among the top tier coaches to be selected for a top tier team. Why would a top tier manager all of a sudden decide to manage a second or third tier club? I don't neglect the inherent romantic feeling one must have to manage a mid-table team and bring them to some sort of glory, but why would a top tier manager willingly make his hard job even harder and statistically almost impossible to be among the greatest? Once again, these are guys that are selected among a few lucky or super talented guys, they have fought week by week to win games in their footballer careers, they know what it means to be competitive, when becoming managers they still want to be successful, if possible at the top. Seriously, consider yourself, some of you are probably studying and will graduate soon. Just imagine that you are very good at something and other people recognize your abilities and give you the chance to proove your skills, you do so and your career seems to be perfect, you are still young and want to achieve more not in terms of money but in terms of success. Why would you all of a sudden decide to take a new road and make your life harder than it already is? Consider this: Pep (or any other top tier manager) already did a great job and achieved a lot to be considered a manager for top tier clubs, he seems to have the skill set that club owners seek! It is pretty silly to tell such guys that they have an "easy" job, it's as lame as Mou can get with his comparisons of EPL and Bundesliga!

 

[Clockwise]

The thing is, people think managing a big club is an easy job. They think having top players is instantly equal to easy route to win... you only need to look at Tata's Barca to know that, top club or mid-table club, you need to be good at what you do to be successful. He had the best player ever at his disposal and look at all the success he didn't have. Now put Tata to manage Bayern (a top club that is easy to manage in so many people's minds) after pep and watch them sink like a stone.

Pep is actually proving himself to be a top manager by getting top clubs and actually keeping them top.

 

[serghei]

It is hilarious to me when people use Tata's Barca as a sign of utter failure, when he took the team on short notice, without any transfers, no preseason almost, with problems in the squad, comming after a 0-7 in CL with Bayern, with Thiago leaving, with Messi off form and comming after injuries, with Pinto in the goal for the most important part of the season, Neymar just comming in Europe and getting used to the league, no Suarez etc.

And he still was a wrong offside call away from winning the league, a league in which we beat Real Madrid both home and away.

Just give the man a break.

 

[Trickykid]

The thing is, people think managing a big club is an easy job. They think having top players is instantly equal to easy route to win... you only need to look at Tata's Barca to know that, top club or mid-table club, you need to be good at what you do to be successful. He had the best player ever at his disposal and look at all the success he didn't have. Now put Tata to manage Bayern (a top club that is easy to manage in so many people's minds) after pep and watch them sink like a stone.

Pep is actually proving himself to be a top manager by getting top clubs and actually keeping them top.

I reckon it's debatable whether Bayern actually improved or regressed during Pep's tenure. Sure, he imposed his own brand of football successfully, but Heynckes' team was arguably at least as strong as current day Bayern is. Granted, it was a tough task to improve on a team like that, but experiments such as turning the world's second best rb into a cdm has hardly worked wonders for him.

The whole Tata point is of course moot, as it's pure guesswork.

 

[Clockwise]

I didn't say Tat is the example of ultimate failure but he is the example of an unsuitable choice for a top club and also an example of the fact that managing a top club is not an easy thing to pull off successfully.
Tata may have faced some complications in his managerial run here, but he also had several obvious flaws that made him unsuitable for a job in a top club with heavy pressure. He is (as he also shows in his Argentina job) rather slow to learn from his mistakes and lacks the ability to correctly read the game sharply on the go. Players are seen on many occasion uninspired and rather confused as to what is the plan to follow in games, which has him losing the dressing room as it happened in Barca (and then as the rumors said in Argentina). Tata actualy prefers way more conservative styles of play which might actually suite mid-table clubs alot more than top clubs with a lot of pressure on a coach to play both exciting football AND get results.

 

[Alik]

lol at people who think he hasn't proven himself or needs to challenge himself by taking over some mid table team

I'm not saying he needs to prove himself, he certainly doesn't. It's also his business what he does. But if he were seeking a challenge, going to City would not be the best option.

 

[DonAK]

I think Bayern have improved. Several of their players atleast. He has managed to renew their squad too, however since he's not won the CL, Bayern fans may not rate him very highly.

Although to be fair some of them are borderline delusional. Sure Bayern did great in 2013 and won the treble, but that was arguably the weakest CL run in recent times.

We were not performing well and Tito was in NYC for treatment. Real were a mess in Mourinho's last season. PSG just established. Atletico starting to establish themselves as well.

The season after, all those teams except us improved. The season after being last season, we improved heaps and bounds as well.

The competition just wasn't there in 2013 compared to the season after and now.

That doesn't discredit their CL win though.

 

[serghei]

That was the year Malaga got robbed of a CL semifinal, right?

 

[khaled_a_d]

That was the year Malaga got robbed of a CL semifinal, right?

Yes

 

[Catta]

Heynckes Bayern is one of the most overrated teams in recent history, they trashed a weak Barca without a coach and their best player, they were also lucky in the final, Gotze was not playing for BVB, he was their most important player, and Ribery should have gotten a red in the first half, they beat BVB just because they had a longer bench, the same reason Real beat Atleti the year after

 

[Trickykid]

Heynckes Bayern is one of the most overrated teams in recent history, they trashed a weak Barca without a coach and their best player, they were also lucky in the final, Gotze was not playing for BVB, he was their most important player, and Ribery should have gotten a red in the first half, they beat BVB just because they had a longer bench, the same reason Real beat Atleti the year after

Oh please