[MENTION=5226]Wolfe[/MENTION] and I usually don't see eye to eye but he's on the money on this one.
No CLs until this entire group of seniors is a distant memory.
Xavi wont coach this team under Bartomeu. Victor Font confirmed in an interview the other day that Xavi will be part of his project and hinted about the possibility of Pep and Puyol. Remember, even Puyol rejected to work under Barto. Long term for Barca this is good. The club wont survive another term with Barto's puppets.
Been telling you this for 2 years fellas. Suarez, Busquets, Pique and at this point probably Alba too. Whoever is at least partly culpable in large failures and refuses to be humbled or chooses to side with his mates needs to go, just like Raul and Guti had to for us to start anew. Messi in 3 years max too, not only because IMO there's absolutely no reason start anything new with a guy you need to shift the entire structure around and he's gonna be gone within 5 years (unless you find a 1 to 1 replacement at AM/SS, maybe Coutinho? still? but it'll be too late by then), but also because you need a new captain.
Yeah, except you're fixated on the manager who is 2nd down the ladder of the project at best. If you have a wanker of a president who fosters these irreformable individuals, no manager will succeed in doing their job. They can get benched for months for their behaviour and all that will do is make results suffer. It's Bartomeu who must go, because he doesn't see their departure as a solution to the problem.
Good candidate for 2020 elections, then the project. Until then CL is a distant dream.
It seems the Catalan press is already turning on Setien.
Setién got his approach wrong and the team once again felt the absence of a centre forward [sport]
'Very, very worrying' [sport]
'Lost' [md]
Maxi Gómez punished a gray Barça without freshness and provokes Setién’s first defeat [md]
Ter Stegen saved a penalty but couldn’t save a team who generated more possession than real danger [md]
so the players are already turning against a manager who hasnt been here for 3 weeks and yet stood by Ernie after Roma and Anfield?
I dont buy it yet. Could be Sport spewing bullshit like always.
Also, its hilarious to me that these Catalan media are already turning on Setien on his 3rd game and never did that to EV even after Roma and Anfield I really wonder how EV has got this cult from Barca and non-Barca fans. its crazy to me.
Napoli having a good game vs Juventus, they seem really dangerous, gonna be very difficult tie, really hope we will not go there with 3 at back and S.Roberto being one of them.
There could be tons of reasons if true.
1. Maybe amigos see that his tactics are a total nonsense and that he doesn't know what is he doing (for a top club level)
2. Maybe players discussed with Lucho and EV about tactics and maybe a coach and amigos knew about their strengths and weak areas and maybe a coach and players agreed on tactics together to some extent.
This could explain why all senior players liked EV. Maybe they really had the same views what should be done in this moment.
Setien, maybe he came and tried to install weird tactics and players think: this shit won't work with 33 year old players.
Or: these tactics don't work anymore, yet a coach doesn't understand it.
Offtopic: I have read an article about a Bosnian coach Osim.
Apparently in late 80s, Real Madrid wanted to hire him, but he declined.
He said: I couldn't take a job because I felt that RM players are too big for me.
I didn't know what to tell them and how to train them. Who am I to tell to Butrageno how to move and shoot?
Anyway, this coach Osim was honest.
He felt that he is not good enough for that level and that there is nothing what he can teach RM players.
Now, Messi and amigos had a lot of coaches in their careers.
What if they think that he is clueless and that his methods don't make sense?
People will reply: lol, they had EV. Nobody can't be worse than EV.
Or: Setien is smart, he plays chess.
Well, he didn't win a single title in his career or played a CL match.
Anyway, these are just some ideas about a story that players are turning a back to him.
We don't know how much influence players have in setting tactics...