Rafa Benitez - The Destroyer of Teams

La Furia

Legion of Doooom
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It's never the club's fault but this is Rafa's third job in a row where the team is suddenly ravaged with injuries as it tries to adjust to his methods. Since day 1 he has been calling for reinforcements. Just wait for the constantly flow of "bargains" in January, I've seen this before.

He's also probably the worst man manager in football. Well maybe not worse than Koeman.
 
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MasonRed4

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How can you criticise Benitez' reign at Liverpool? He put Liverpool back to where they belong, at the top in Europe.

Came in 2004, with a relatively poor squad, with one or 2 very good players, aka Gerrard and Owen. (Owen was sold at the right time, with 1 year left on his contract, and his value decreased when he went to Real, ending up in Newcastle). Signed Xabi Alonso for £10 million, Luis Garcia and some other squad players.

Got to the final of the League Cup, only to lose out to Chelsea. Won the champions league, beating the likes of Bayern Leverkuesen (German Champions), Juventus, Chelsea and AC Milan.

2005/2006. Finishes in the league with a points tally of 82, 1 point behind Manchester United. Wins the FA Cup.

2006/2007. Reaches the final of the champions league, and undeservedly beaten by AC Milan, finishing 3rd in the league.

2007/2008. Liverpool get new owners, sign Fernando Torres, for a bargain price of £20 million. Finish 4th in the league, Torres ending his first season on 24 league goals.

2008/2009. A season plagued by injures to some key players included Fernando Torres, who manages to get score 14 league goals, Gerrard finishing Liverpools highest scorer. Only losing 2 games all season, and beating Manchester United and Chelsea home and away. Finished 4 points off the top, to Manchester United. Would it have been different if they'd had thier top striker for the majority of the season?

2009/2010. The main headlines for this season was the loss of Xabi Alonso, who Benitez sold to Real Madrid for £30 million, when the season before, was on the brink of a £15 million move to Juventus. Benitez see's little of these funds and but spends his budget on Glen Johnson and Alberto Aquilani.

At this point I'll make it clear that Liverpool's owners have Liverpool in debt, with repayments of £40 million interest a year, money that could be used for transfers instead of having to sell players to buy.

A dissapointing season to say to least for Liverpool fans, finishing 7th in the league and being knocked out of the champions league. Only to progress to the semi finals of the Europa, to be beaten in the extra time, by the eventual winners, Atletico Madrid.

Benitez reign took Liverpool from a club struggling to get into Europe, with a relatively poor squad to European Champions and a team that everyone feared in Europe, not forgetting some memorable wins, including trashing Real Madrid at Anfield, beating Barcelona over 2 legs and in the Nou camp. Knocking Chelsea of the European Cup twice, 4-1 win at Old Trafford and of course the Champions league final against AC Milan, to name a few. In truth he was made to look a scapegoat by a media that fed off lies from Liverpools American owners. When in actual fact he was the only man to stand up to the owners. Not to mention the respect Liverpool fans had for him, contributing to many events in the city, getting close to numerous Charities and donating plenty of time and money to help these causes.

Sure Rafa made a few bad buys, but every manager does. Everyone seems to forget to players he bought that have suceeded, I'll remind you of a few.

Pepe Reina (£6million)
Arbeloa (Now at Real Madrid and in the Spanish side)
Daniel Agger (£5million, when fit, one of the best defenders in the premier league)
Aurelio (Free transfer, while he hasnt set the world alight, he was magnificent during the 2008/2009 campaign)
Xabi Alonso (Bought for around £10-14million, sold for £30 million)
Mascherano (Sat bench warming at West Ham, now plays for your beloved Barca and captain of the Argentina natiional side)
Fernando Torres(£20million seems cheap now doesnt it?)
Lucas Leiva(£5million, although seen in the media as a poor player, he is actually one of the most improved players Liverpool have over the past 3 years, and soon, the media will start to notice him)

Luis Garcia, Dirk Kuyt, Peter Crouch, Martin Skrtel, Glen Johnson.

These things seem to go unnoticed, as well as completely changing the clubs youth structure, bringing in some of the most talented youngster in Europe, and staff that have worked at Barcelona, bringing in some of the best talent in Europe through the ranks. People eat up this garbage the media write and think that it is all based on facts. It is not. Benitez didnt give much to the media, so they painted a picture that they wanted people to see him has, and the naive public, have accepted it. It's about time people showed this great manager some respect, and judge him on his achievements in the past. Inter Milan are lucky to have such a dignified, all be it, largely over weight manager.
 

AnfieldEd

I am Leg End
Says you who wanted him out last season ?

of course he would go back.. you now have a new sugar daddy someone who Rafa can drain for an extra 3 years before you sit and cry help we are going down one more time and be sold for the Chinese for a total value of 1 $ and on 10 installment over 10 years.

you should have gone for Pellegrini but i think the new Yanks will get a proper manager ala Guus or someone of his caliber(or Capello when he ditch England ) to take over the team

In relative terms my friend. I'd have Rafa over Hodgson any day of the week.

Plus I don't want Guus Hiddink who will only stay for 5 minutes before fucking off of Capello who is too old now. Though of course I am a Capello lover. But we need a young manager, who is relatively fresh and can be our manager for the long term.

Someone like Low or Sanchez Flores.
 
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Valon

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How can you criticise Benitez' reign at Liverpool? He put Liverpool back to where they belong, at the top in Europe.

Came in 2004, with a relatively poor squad, with one or 2 very good players, aka Gerrard and Owen. (Owen was sold at the right time, with 1 year left on his contract, and his value decreased when he went to Real, ending up in Newcastle). Signed Xabi Alonso for £10 million, Luis Garcia and some other squad players.

Got to the final of the League Cup, only to lose out to Chelsea. Won the champions league, beating the likes of Bayern Leverkuesen (German Champions), Juventus, Chelsea and AC Milan.

2005/2006. Finishes in the league with a points tally of 82, 1 point behind Manchester United. Wins the FA Cup.

2006/2007. Reaches the final of the champions league, and undeservedly beaten by AC Milan, finishing 3rd in the league.

2007/2008. Liverpool get new owners, sign Fernando Torres, for a bargain price of £20 million. Finish 4th in the league, Torres ending his first season on 24 league goals.

2008/2009. A season plagued by injures to some key players included Fernando Torres, who manages to get score 14 league goals, Gerrard finishing Liverpools highest scorer. Only losing 2 games all season, and beating Manchester United and Chelsea home and away. Finished 4 points off the top, to Manchester United. Would it have been different if they'd had thier top striker for the majority of the season?

2009/2010. The main headlines for this season was the loss of Xabi Alonso, who Benitez sold to Real Madrid for £30 million, when the season before, was on the brink of a £15 million move to Juventus. Benitez see's little of these funds and but spends his budget on Glen Johnson and Alberto Aquilani.

At this point I'll make it clear that Liverpool's owners have Liverpool in debt, with repayments of £40 million interest a year, money that could be used for transfers instead of having to sell players to buy.

A dissapointing season to say to least for Liverpool fans, finishing 7th in the league and being knocked out of the champions league. Only to progress to the semi finals of the Europa, to be beaten in the extra time, by the eventual winners, Atletico Madrid.

Benitez reign took Liverpool from a club struggling to get into Europe, with a relatively poor squad to European Champions and a team that everyone feared in Europe, not forgetting some memorable wins, including trashing Real Madrid at Anfield, beating Barcelona over 2 legs and in the Nou camp. Knocking Chelsea of the European Cup twice, 4-1 win at Old Trafford and of course the Champions league final against AC Milan, to name a few. In truth he was made to look a scapegoat by a media that fed off lies from Liverpools American owners. When in actual fact he was the only man to stand up to the owners. Not to mention the respect Liverpool fans had for him, contributing to many events in the city, getting close to numerous Charities and donating plenty of time and money to help these causes.

Sure Rafa made a few bad buys, but every manager does. Everyone seems to forget to players he bought that have suceeded, I'll remind you of a few.

Pepe Reina (£6million)
Arbeloa (Now at Real Madrid and in the Spanish side)
Daniel Agger (£5million, when fit, one of the best defenders in the premier league)
Aurelio (Free transfer, while he hasnt set the world alight, he was magnificent during the 2008/2009 campaign)
Xabi Alonso (Bought for around £10-14million, sold for £30 million)
Mascherano (Sat bench warming at West Ham, now plays for your beloved Barca and captain of the Argentina natiional side)
Fernando Torres(£20million seems cheap now doesnt it?)
Lucas Leiva(£5million, although seen in the media as a poor player, he is actually one of the most improved players Liverpool have over the past 3 years, and soon, the media will start to notice him)

Luis Garcia, Dirk Kuyt, Peter Crouch, Martin Skrtel, Glen Johnson.

These things seem to go unnoticed, as well as completely changing the clubs youth structure, bringing in some of the most talented youngster in Europe, and staff that have worked at Barcelona, bringing in some of the best talent in Europe through the ranks. People eat up this garbage the media write and think that it is all based on facts. It is not. Benitez didnt give much to the media, so they painted a picture that they wanted people to see him has, and the naive public, have accepted it. It's about time people showed this great manager some respect, and judge him on his achievements in the past. Inter Milan are lucky to have such a dignified, all be it, largely over weight manager.

Liverpool are a top side? Since when?
 

House of Flies

all your bases belong to us
Clubs youth structure :lol: Rafa destroys club's youth structures :lol:

Valencia- Check!

Liverpool- Check!

Inter Milan- I dont think he is going to be there much longer :lol:

I love Liverpool idiots who think getting a player on free is of total no cost. Geeze, there is something like sign on fee/wages. And there is a huge reason why all of these "free" signings failed so hard. No one wanted them except Benitez.
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My next installment due this weekend would shed some more light on it.
 
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XaviMessiGirl

New member
Liverpool are a top side? Since when?

Well admittedly they aren't currently, but you can't say they haven't been top historically. And to add, being shit the past couple of seasons has a lot more to do with the ex-owners than it does with Rafa. Though Rafa made some terrible decisions in the transfer market (my main problem with him along with man management/relations) so he's not off the hook.
 

AnfieldEd

I am Leg End
Clubs youth structure :lol: Rafa destroys club's youth structures :lol:

Valencia- Check!

Liverpool- Check!

Inter Milan- I dont think he is going to be there much longer :lol:

I love Liverpool idiots who think getting a player on free is of total no cost. Geeze, there is something like sign on fee/wages. And there is a huge reason why all of these "free" signings failed so hard. No one wanted them except Benitez.
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My next installment due this weekend would shed some more light on it.

Don't bother yourself on our account dumbass.
 

House of Flies

all your bases belong to us
Nah I will just ignore you and say nothing.

We both know that you cant do that. You totally will rip open your chest to give Rafa your heart. Shouldnt be long. His milk and sugar references are highlighting his love for food.
 
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Valon

Guest
Well admittedly they aren't currently, but you can't say they haven't been top historically. And to add, being shit the past couple of seasons has a lot more to do with the ex-owners than it does with Rafa. Though Rafa made some terrible decisions in the transfer market (my main problem with him along with man management/relations) so he's not off the hook.

I know XMG but they're not a top side and Rafa is to blame for that as much as the Yanks are.
 

AnfieldEd

I am Leg End
Well we weren't a "top side" before he arrived, yet when he did arrive we reached two european cup finals and had 2 of our highest points total in premier league history, so make your own judgments.
 

House of Flies

all your bases belong to us
Let me give you an installment Edward-

Philipp Degen is on 3.5 m Euro/per year contract. He has spent 3 years of his contract- 2 at Liverpool and 1 (currently) at Stuttgart. He has played 7 games for Liverpool for the two years that he has been a part of Liverpool which sorta makes it 1m/per game type for him. Liverpool are hoping that Stuttgart will sign him for 2 m Euros. You will count him as 2 m euros in the black, accountants will count it as 5 euros in the red

Hello Reality!
 

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