Real Madrid (old thread)

[sammy]

mate nothing is wrong with traditional value but if the club is run charity like "Bono " style why do u take money for subscribers for Barca TV ? why don't you spread your message of love for all ? why take TV money in the first place ..

And there's nothing wrong with that. Same as perez's "theme park". I don't like it, but there's nothing wrong with that.

There are prices for every thing today, even the air we breath, come with price, and that include the tv programme we watch.

 

[Beast]

Firstly we're now the club with the 3rd biggest turnover in the world, we're not the financial igoramuses we used to be and we're catching up with you and United all the time.

Secondly our plan for a franchise in the MLS was different from the affiliation you have with Real Salt Lake. I was delighted to see the plan fail in the end because I don't think such a plan is compatible with Barça's values.

You are not idiots no doubt , but if we had your squad the last couple of year we wouldn't never be the third in terms of turnover , more like achieve double the third biggest turnover in the list
and that's my point , you are not using your resources well

And there's nothing wrong with that. Same as perez's "theme park". I don't like it, but there's nothing wrong with that.

There are prices for every thing today, even the air we breath, come with price, and that include the tv programme we watch.

i agree Sammy but some posts make u feel like Barca is a charity , it's in the business like the rest of us.. the difference is those 15 Mil for the shirt sponsor nothing more nothing less

 

[Cule Angles]

That's pure conjecture Beast, not even worth discussing because it has no basis in fact.

 

[Beast]

That's pure conjecture Beast, not even worth discussing because it has no basis in fact.

So explain to me how we with no European achievement lately (last 7 years ) , 2 titles in the last 6 years earn more than you with 2 CL and 3 liga titles among other trophies ? have 2 WPOY one of them earned it twice in a row and one is almost there but has large followers
There is basis alright, you can chose to ignore it but there is a reason for such difference in income

 

[sammy]

i agree Sammy but some posts make u feel like Barca is a charity , it's in the business like the rest of us.. the difference is those 15 Mil for the shirt sponsor nothing more nothing less

Ooo, i see. Maybe my post confused you. I just want the spirit gio, spirit to conduct "charity-thingy". But pure charity, that's not gonna happen.

 

[Beast]

Ooo, i see. Maybe my post confused you. I just want the spirit gio, spirit to conduct "charity-thingy". But pure charity, that's not gonna happen.

Every club in the world donate money for charity so does the players , even Chelsea
trying to achieve success and financial stability doesn't mean that clubs globally don't donate money

 

[Cule Angles]

So explain to me how we with no European achievement lately (last 7 years ) , 2 titles in the last 6 years earn more than you with 2 CL and 3 liga titles among other trophies ? have 2 WPOY one of them earned it twice in a row and one is almost there but has large followers
There is basis alright, you can chose to ignore it but there is a reason for such difference in income

How does that point to you doubling our turnover if you'd had certain players? It doesn't, you're in one of your shite-talking moods. You seem to forget that we have come from a long way behind in terms of the marketing game and have increased our following abroad immensely whilst you are towards the top of your ceiling already. There are only so many braindead Asian "fans" to squeeze money out of.

 

[John Antonio Bilboa]

If we bought all the best players in the world, and didn't make a better turnover than any other team on earth that would be a shock.Go figure.

 

[Beast]

How does that point to you doubling our turnover if you'd had certain players? It doesn't, you're in one of your shite-talking moods. You seem to forget that we have come from a long way behind in terms of the marketing game and have increased our following abroad immensely whilst you are towards the top of your ceiling already. There are only so many braindead Asian "fans" to squeeze money out of.

Easy really..
take off your pre-trophies pre-Dinho /Messi income and compare it (taking into consideration the growth rate/inflation rate/currency fluctuations in the last 6 years .
Those u call "Brain dead " are the same people who keep your club floating and we welcome them with open arms , if they didn't matter or Brain dead your club wouldn't have traveled to Asia several times the last couple of years to take money and establish a fan base

 

[Cule Angles]

Did I say they didn't matter? Their willingness to part with their money has benefitted us immensely.

 

[sammy]

Every club in the world donate money for charity so does the players , even Chelsea
trying to achieve success and financial stability doesn't mean that clubs globally don't donate money

I also think so gio. But i'll give you an example, there are many rich rich person, i strongly believe they gave donation or charity, but they coveted their palace with gold. Is it wrong? no, it's their money. But i don't like it, why? cause can you see, what many people who living with less than a dollar a day, feels?

I don't mind what madrid conduct to do their business, i just want barca can do what i think. Well, it's kinda subjective though. Cause, that's me, i don't what the board had in mind.

 

[AnfieldEd]

Bascially this is about which club WHORES itself out the most?

 

[Beast]

Eddy cut the crap u would die for anyone giving u 30 Million ..

 

[Cule Angles]

Bascially this is about which club WHORES itself out the most?

LOL, how are your American pimps these days?

 

[Metaphysical]

Isn't revolutionary ? Cause football clubs have theme parks ? or any similar idea's ?

like I said, I think it was united who were considering making a casino.

but in the end any plans like this fall away for many reasons. some club aren't run by property tycoons so can't get land cleverly/steal land. and it's a huge expensive to do this and many clubs can't fenegel millions from banks either. it's not a revolutionary idea, perez is just corrupt enough to do it.

but the crucial difference, for me, is that these ideas fall away because this is FOOTBALL. I know it's a business but there are limits to that, especially limits of taste and class. perez is a whore for money and so doesn't have any class or taste, which is why when he's around real have these stupid ideas.

anyway, the ultimate rebuke to perez comes from dr. ian malcolm.

"[Your club was] so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn't stop to think if they should."

(especially pertinent as it is about a theme park!)

real are so far ahead in marketing terms because your policy was to sign famous players. famous players draw in plastic fans like nobody's business. you won two CL's with good players, but hard-working players. no one was really marketable worldwide. perez got in and changed all that, pushing you right to the top with famous players. you were starting from a position of strength, though, have won a lot with honest pros.

ronaldinho (especially) and messi have helped drag us out of a financial hole and up to the third biggest in the world. yes we're still behind you but we started from a position of weakness with a 5/6 year trophy droughtl. from that, we have ascended to 3rd biggest in terms of income and one of the biggest names in world football. we've gone from a laughing stock to the darlings of europe. that's pretty fucking impressive, my friend.

you underestimate laporta and his two teams (pre and post no confidence vote).

I hate the idea of a football club being a "brand"

I just..........hate it.

I am sure Gio as long as Real are winning trophies you will try to polish the turds that they come out with - but at the end of the day a turd is a turd.

If this is the way all major football clubs go, then I'd rather not be a part of it tbh.

I haveta agree with edward, here.

theme parks != football.