Real Madrid (old thread)

[House of Flies]

not really, gio. you are a football club.. you are supposed to sell your business through football not a ferris wheel. galatico model worked financially because you had the best players in the world playing good football (first years) however do you think a hotdog which real madrid sausage will sell more in China especially if it goes against whatever chinese cuisine is.

secondly, since i lived in asia... i know how them asians work as they go for the most successful team in the world hence currently, barcelona is number 1 in far east asia. if adults are so fickle about their teams then why do you think that kids would insist on buying real madrid gear when they are in love with barcelona, then man utd, then chelsea and then you guys and/or remaining loyal real madrid followers.

you need some kind of attraction to do with football to keep these customers... you need either a successful team on all fronts to get people in this themepark each weekend or you need a world class player to be an attraction. first part is circumstantial and second is just insane.

nothing generates free money out of thin air and you know that as a businessman... this investment as an engineer and hopefully as a potential marketing guy, sounds absolutely absurd... there is no hook to this project... and you are completely discounting the hundreds of other theme parks that are opening or opened in China each with their own little hook.

cause really do you want to step in a Cristiano Ronaldo guido boat or a Mickey Mouse steam boat.... ask your kids right now.

 

[Lemmi]

the madrid and disney corporations share many racist ideals. i think its a match made in heaven.

 

[Beast]

not really, gio. you are a football club.. you are supposed to sell your business through football not a ferris wheel. galatico model worked financially because you had the best players in the world playing good football (first years) however do you think a hotdog which real madrid sausage will sell more in China especially if it goes against whatever chinese cuisine is.

secondly, since i lived in asia... i know how them asians work as they go for the most successful team in the world hence currently, barcelona is number 1 in far east asia. if adults are so fickle about their teams then why do you think that kids would insist on buying real madrid gear when they are in love with barcelona, then man utd, then chelsea and then you guys and/or remaining loyal real madrid followers.

you need some kind of attraction to do with football to keep these customers... you need either a successful team on all fronts to get people in this themepark each weekend or you need a world class player to be an attraction. first part is circumstantial and second is just insane.

nothing generates free money out of thin air and you know that as a businessman... this investment as an engineer and hopefully as a potential marketing guy, sounds absolutely absurd... there is no hook to this project... and you are completely discounting the hundreds of other theme parks that are opening or opened in China each with their own little hook.

cause really do you want to step in a Cristiano Ronaldo guido boat or a Mickey Mouse steam boat.... ask your kids right now.

who taught you that? get a course in business buddy ..
- as a football club you are not supposed to sell your business , you are not selling football you are selling the "BRAND "
- china have how many children ? please lets not suggest that whoever will go and invest in China don't know what the market want , there is more Mercedes in China than what i saw in Germany
- Real topping the charts of the revenue despite not being anywhere near no 1 , prove your "I-know-the-Asians" not economically correct not even politically correct it's been a long time since u lived in Asia Jatin, CR is the number one brand in Asia not Barcelona

- the Theme park is not just games , it's concerts, meetings , Real Madrid museum ..etc
Spain don't have a top theme park and Spain has the highest number of tourists every year
- oh Jatin many things generate money out of thin air , start by the stock market

we will not be running ours in China , we will give the franchise

the madrid and disney corporations share many racist ideals. i think its a match made in heaven.

have u noticed , not a single black character in Mickey Mouse , even though most rates are dark skinned.

 

[Lemmi]

well its hardly a secret that walt disney was a vile racist

 

[Metaphysical]

he has an amazing business mind , i won't be surprised if it generated 50-100 mil a year for the club
but i don't think he is after that (naming it after him ) he will wait for other people to nominate him for that providing he is not in the office

tbh it's not an "amazing business mind" is it?

building a theme park isn't a revolutionary idea, I'm sure other clubs have contemplated it (or something like it) before - united wanted to build a casino if I'm not mistaken?

but one way or another all these plans fall by the wayside because people realise that

1. they have nothing to do with football and crucially
2. they are FUCKING GAY

I mean come on, beastie. A THEME PARK? fucking retarded. absolutely fucking retarded. it's tasteless, tacky, and never ever befitting a club who considers themselves to be among the greatest in the world. jesus. a fucking theme park!

well its hardly a secret that walt disney was a vile racist

he made up for it with dumbo, what with it being an allegory for racial persecution (african ears have bigger ears than indian elephants).

and before anyone talks about the crows

1. they're the only people who are actually nice to dumbo.
2. that's how many black people around the south spoke (just listen to some early son house recordings where there's a bunch of guys in the booth).
3. "when I see an elephant fly" is one hell of a song.

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she's fine as fuck.

wjesley is a lucky boy.

 

[Lemmi]

theme parks arent cheap

my idea is for match tickets to be edible. therefore making millions and saving the world.

 

[diegomessi]

Beast. about me being a "bandwagon" fan (which i am not for sure what that means)
actually i went to my first Barça game at 4........and my ma is catalan

 

[sammy]

Not really, a theme park is a theme park there is nothing bad about it.. same way your club sell hot dog's , beer , sell scarfs and T-shirts .. it doesn't make u a salesmen or a Hotdog seller .. it's business
a theme park is a very good idea from a branding perspective, the best target for any brand is the children , they influence the parents purchasing decisions and are potential future costumers .
people laughed on the first galactico model in terms of spending money .. the idea was right and it did generate much more money than what we paid (not talking about the application as it was a failure as we all know after a first good 3 years )
As i said it depend on what he will offer , no doubt it won't be your normal theme park it will be special at the same time will generate extra money out of thin air .

As a marketing man and from a business perspective i think it's fabulous idea and a good way of increasing the club revenues to the maximum

Gio gave a marketing course, reading Phillip Kotler lately gio? I hate it when a madrista is right.

not really, gio. you are a football club.. you are supposed to sell your business through football not a ferris wheel. galatico model worked financially because you had the best players in the world playing good football (first years) however do you think a hotdog which real madrid sausage will sell more in China especially if it goes against whatever chinese cuisine is.

secondly, since i lived in asia... i know how them asians work as they go for the most successful team in the world hence currently, barcelona is number 1 in far east asia. if adults are so fickle about their teams then why do you think that kids would insist on buying real madrid gear when they are in love with barcelona, then man utd, then chelsea and then you guys and/or remaining loyal real madrid followers.

But at some point i will think like my buddy's house here. A football club it is, and a football club always will. I like how barca's business operating. We won't make money like perez will to real. But i like it. I like to think barca is a footbal club (more than a football club) and as a social club. Throwing gala's to raise fund for the poor all over the globe, gave a charity duty for our stars. To remind people that there are still many living human being, living with less than a dollar daily, while some small part in this world coveted their palace with gold, what a wonderful don't you think?

It won't make money like perez will (though, like many business, the risk is high and maybe the revenue will sink, and the "expected visitor" never really come, their forecasting failed, and bla bla bla bla bla bla.....) But, i prefer that kinda brand image for barca.
But we need money to be big?!?!?! well, till this day, we're doing just fine. We don't have much, but we have enough.
Not just a football club. Like in music, Bono stands for what he think and anyone respect him (even george w. bush). And also me, john winston lennon, right rasputin?

After all that mambo jambo jibbirish talk from me, my point is, whatever gets you through the night perez....

 

[yusuf]

disney land

 

[Beast]

Yesterday AS interviewed Ruben De La Red and the support from the fans never stopped . from every single fan even Cule's & Atletico Madrid fans (Ruben already said that Cule's sent him support letters in the Interview as well ) ..
sadly no one knows what's going on with Ruben, not even the Doctors and that's what's stopping his return . they can't determine what went wrong and be default the medication .
having done all sort of tests and even genetic tests Doctors in Spain,France,Germany and currently the USA cannot find the medical reason behind his collapse back in January .
until they figure out what went wrong with Ruben he will not play football

a proud MBA holder Sammy

tbh it's not an "amazing business mind" is it?

building a theme park isn't a revolutionary idea, I'm sure other clubs have contemplated it (or something like it) before - united wanted to build a casino if I'm not mistaken?

but one way or another all these plans fall by the wayside because people realise that

1. they have nothing to do with football and crucially
2. they are FUCKING GAY

I mean come on, beastie. A THEME PARK? fucking retarded. absolutely fucking retarded. it's tasteless, tacky, and never ever befitting a club who considers themselves to be among the greatest in the world. jesus. a fucking theme park!


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Isn't revolutionary ? Cause football clubs have theme parks ? or any similar idea's ?

what are the chances of failure and it's affect on the club ? none we provide the land (which we already own ) and investor provide the cash vs part of the profit, franchise for the theme park sister parks in Miami & Beijing generate extra income .. what can u lose ? nothing
if you study a little bit of business you'll see it's brilliant idea as i explained to Jatin , they target the correct sector of consumers
what's tasteless about a theme park , it's classy that a club sell Hotdog & beer but tasteless to build a theme park that works all year around , promote the brand , have a museum and thousands of new fans ?

you will still be looking @ selling your shirt for profit while Real are miles ahead of everyone else as always ..
A club who are the GREATEST in the world due to being pioneers not followers .. we established the first galactico side in the 50's , one the first 5 CL ... u see the "First " ?

 

[Abaddon]

Gio gave a marketing course, reading Phillip Kotler lately gio? I hate it when a madrista is right.

UGH don't mention that name please... damn now my whole marketing course is coming back. Grr.

 

[AnfieldEd]

I hate the idea of a football club being a "brand"

I just..........hate it.

I am sure Gio as long as Real are winning trophies you will try to polish the turds that they come out with - but at the end of the day a turd is a turd.

If this is the way all major football clubs go, then I'd rather not be a part of it tbh.

 

[Abaddon]

I hate the idea of a football club being a "brand"

I just..........hate it.

I am sure Gio as long as Real are winning trophies you will try to polish the turds that they come out with - but at the end of the day a turd is a turd.

If this is the way all major football clubs go, then I'd rather not be a part of it tbh.

Of course you hate it, since it is impossible to sell the Liverpool brand to anyone. Bunch of butchers and lumberjacks.

 

[AnfieldEd]

Yes that is the reason why.

Dumbass.

 

[Lemmi]

You pioneered the first Galacticos in the 50's?

And there is me thinking Franco did. Madrid is not the big tourist destination compared to Disneyland Paris, London, Barcelona etc. I just don't see the theme park as viable, and inside the footballing world i think it will make you [more of] a joke.