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gvt2000

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Marca's already asking for Pelegrini's head. Their front page reads (in very big letters i might add) "Vete ya [Just go]" they're also saying Valdano will take over. Manu will probably be sacked if Real slips again in the next 4 games (Getafe, Atletico, Milan, Alcorcon)
 

Beast

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he aint gonna resign cause then he wont get paid

Some things are more valuable than money , self respect is one of them .
He was given a project and multi-million dollars worth of great players in return all they asked for is good football THAN wins.
neither this or that, stubbornness with his tactics that was slammed by everyone from his own players to the media yet we seem to be giving him more time .

I don't care if he screwed up every manager screw up the difference is having the self assessment to realize you are wrong or that your players will not fit this tactical theme

Capello fell into the same trap but he was man enough to make a U turn and give Becks the chance again and it paid well.
this is the most embarrassing defeat in the history of Real Madrid , anyone with a minimum self respect would apologize and resign

Question: madrid are mortgaged up to their eyeballs, so do they even have the cash to sack Manu?

If we don't sack him we face more financial troubles in the form of early crash out and losing all this glory hunters who pay top dollars to watch their players .
my answer is yes

Marca's already asking for Pelegrini's head. Their front page reads (in very big letters i might add) "Vete ya [Just go]" they're also saying Valdano will take over. Manu will probably be sacked if Real slips again in the next 4 games (Getafe, Atletico, Milan, Alcorcon)

Everyone is asking for his head and this time u can't really blame them , there is a difference between playing well and losing which people would say the team needs time but we play crap and even 1-0 wins he can't master .
Valdano taking over is a good alternative at least he is responsible for this project from A to Z but i do think he will just be a care taker , it's been 13 years since he last coached Real to the title but i think they will look for a permanent manager by January winter break if not now.

Quite a big disappointment how things turned out under Pellegrini , never realized how stubborn he is for someone with such experience and education its quite shocking to see he has no plan B for his tactics

Sport claims what Gvt has said , that Valdano will be handled the position till another manager is available and mention Laudrup & Mancini as free to take over managers
 

gvt2000

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If real madrid are planning to sack Pelegrini, now's the time. Real have open chances in la liga and champions league and enough time to re-shape the squad before CL knockout stage. Delaying the (almost) inevitable can cost Madrid another trophy-less season, with all the monetary consequenses it carries.
 

Beast

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I agree gvt, however the problem could be the congested schedule , we have Getafe than Milan all in the span of one week .
but the team needs a new motivation and blood as one of the things that was clear last night was failure of Manu to motivate the players .
despite the several chances we looked very shaky (unlucky at times ) and in a state of chaos on the pitch .
we kept doing the same mistakes over & over again putting 4 players in the center in front of the goal area of Alco and once again made it piss easy for them to defend .

I have Marca & AS front pages all day on alert waiting for the breaking news

Marca cover

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Poll

http://www.barcaforum.com/showthread.php?p=175327#post175327

give your reasons for yes or no and who you think should take over if it's a yes
 

gvt2000

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As much sense as it makes to sack him now, its not going to happen. November is a decisive month for Real's liga aspirations: Getafe @ home, Atletico @ V.C. and Barcelona @ N.C Florentino is not going to make such a drastic change and risk widening the gap between barca and madrid.

Drastic comebacks aside (winning everything, including barcelona @ nou camp), I think Florentino's going to wait till december.
 

Lemmi

The Reckoner
haha great pic!!

i think perez's only option is to buy the entire alcoron team, for they are just that good.
 

Poor_Sunyol

In Lucho we trust!
Perez killed Madrid, Perez killed Madrid, Perez, Perez, Perez killed Madrid. (Sang to the tune of the Grand Old Duke of York)
 

gvt2000

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What real Madrid need is not a band-aid fix. Real Madrid need to restructure the club from its very foundations. The reason why real madrid has gone through over 10 coaches in the last 6 years is due to a football identity crisis, a lack of style. Said style needs to be inculcated to all players in all divisions. When real Madrid find their style, it'll be much easier to revolutionize a team via transfers and new manager appointments. You'll know what you need and what should work beforehand and, most importantly, new players will have to adjust to your style, not the other way around.


Why do you think Barcelona players have a much easier transition from lower divisions to the first team? Why do you think Barcelona is so successful in lower divisions? Every single Barcelona team is taught to play like the first team does. Barcelona has a trademark style.
 
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Beast

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What real Madrid need is not a band-aid fix. Real Madrid need to restructure the club from its very foundations. The reason why real madrid has gone through over 10 coaches in the last 6 years is due to a football identity crisis, a lack of style. Said style needs to be inculcated to all players in all divisions. When real Madrid find their style, it'll be much easier to revolutionize a team via transfers and new manager appointments. You'll know what you need and what should work beforehand and, most importantly, new players will have to adjust to your style, not the other way around.


Why do you think Barcelona players have a much easier transition from lower divisions to the first team? Why do you think Barcelona is so successful in lower divisions? Every single Barcelona team is tough to play like the first team does. Barcelona has a trademark style.

just to point out Real Madrid had only one manager staying for more then 2 years in the last 30 years (or more ) .
it's a wrong urban legend that only with Perez and co the managers kept getting the sack every year the fact is it was always like that for so many years par Munoz and Del Bosque is an exception not a rule in the club.

you are right about the restructure and that's why Arsene Wenger was always their first choice and Pellegerini was second , i don't think they anticipated the current failure & dysfunction under him , but they did try at least


No , not really Ry .. i will give him a look i didn't watch Troys although the source is goal.com so ...
 

Cule Angles

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I think Wenger is too old to begin a massive project like that now, he considers himself to only be part of the way through his long term project at Arsenal which aims to leave behind a fully functioning youth system to provide for any future scenario where clubs have to field X amount of local players. TBH I think the revolving doors will be in place at the Bernabéu for quite some time to come.
 

Nándor

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...still in the club and said he won't resign ...

sounds a bit like aragones with spain doesn't it??? :p NO VOY A DIMITIR, COBARDE, MENTIROSO :lol:

on a more serious note...

- should pérez sack pellegrini or not

68% YES
32% NO

- who's to blame for the current situation

"the players" 48%
"la direction" 19%
"all" 17%
pellegrini 16%
 
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