Real Madrid (old thread)

[House of Flies]

if you cant get matrix, get on busquets. that kid is gold in my opinion.

 

[Pepe Silvia]

What system Pepe ? the 4-2-2-2 that was deployed for 14 games ? or the 4-3-3 which was deployed for 7 games , or the 4-2-3-1 which was deployed for 8 games or the 4-3-1-2 which was deployed for 9 games ? did you watch us this season buddy ? we were switching formations a lot which is one of the bad things in Manu era
the problem is we had no system and and there is no success cause there is no system yet implemented , we played really good football most of the season which made him loved and respected by the fans but there was no tactical direction or system
Jose is a man who will implement a system first than pick players second ..
they need a leader massively , it's a difference between failing in crucial games and winning them , they need the believe .. this a very good squad with no direction


Valdano is trying his best to find a manager who can do both tbh , but in front of the board and the fans he is responsible for Pellegrini his man who is very respected by fans & players ( all polls asking for Pellegrini head in Marca ended up with a landslide for Manuel ) and very decent but didn't take the leadership of the team in games despite showing all signs of iron fist in disciplining the players when needed ( big + ) .. however his in game moves /motivational skills came a lot short
don't be surprise if the press said Valdano has approached Wenger again in the coming few days before Monday .. i know that's what he will do but if he failed he will not have anyone worthy of the spot than Jose


see how much we sacrifice to turn you to a Madridista ..

tell me who is the next football character you like ? i will make money betting on us buying him

I've already mentioned that I have seen your games Gio no need to get on the offensive.

I would then have to question your front office signing of Pellegrini in the first place if they were to disregard his efforts of implementing a system and his style of leadership. Why bother w/ him in the first place? It's tacky the way RM switches up so much especially after RM smashed the points record too! (96) That isn't a failure the way it's made to seem.

Good luck next season though. Mourinho is a trainwreck of a person who will do more damage than good imho.

 

[Beast]

Sorry Pepe i really didn't mean to sound offensive to you , apologies buddy :beer2:
my point is that surely you've seen it (The constant change of formation) i think that's what you call in English rhetorical questions , no ?

Sometimes you take a chance on a manager and turn out bad .. we'a ll seen that a lot man ..
Do you think our subs couldn't beat Alco in copa del ray ? or beat Lyon with our first team ? at home with just 1-0 down ? he failed in all the crucial games
in fact his failure revived both Milan & lyon after they beat us

if you cant get matrix, get on busquets. that kid is gold in my opinion.

sell us Busquets than , i rated him since his first season

 

[Aasim]

Do you even want Jatin as a fellow Madrid fan? Loll

Valdano is trying his best to find a manager who can do both tbh , but in front of the board and the fans he is responsible for Pellegrini his man who is very respected by fans & players ( all polls asking for Pellegrini head in Marca ended up with a landslide for Manuel ) and very decent but didn't take the leadership of the team in games despite showing all signs of iron fist in disciplining the players when needed ( big + ) .. however his in game moves /motivational skills came a lot short
don't be surprise if the press said Valdano has approached Wenger again in the coming few days before Monday .. i know that's what he will do but if he failed he will not have anyone worthy of the spot than Jose

There isnt many managers out there who can do both.

Thing against Pellegrini is the big games. He's been outwit by most big teams. Maybe another year with the squad would allow him time to tactically sort them out but Perez doesn't have time, he wants results now.

What if Mourinho loses in all three cups next year, by playing defensive football. Would he get the sack considering Pellegrini has lost all three cups by playing decent football?



onsidering Pellegrini will be sacked because he

 

[beautifulgame]

Big Guus Hiddink can do both like few others, plus he has all the experience in the world.

 

[House of Flies]

i am a lucky bastard and perez has a boner for me.

 

[Beast]

Big Guus Hiddink can do both like few others, plus he has all the experience in the world.

Guus no prefer a less troubled time , it's not an easy job .. plus others will point out to Chelsea- Barca game or the fact that he is the only manager in the world to win the Cl without winning a single KO game
he has his deficiencies like all managers but hell of experience no doubt .. but you always feel a Dutch coach is for Barca.. don't know why BG

Do you even want Jatin as a fellow Madrid fan? Loll



There isnt many managers out there who can do both.

Thing against Pellegrini is the big games. He's been outwit by most big teams. Maybe another year with the squad would allow him time to tactically sort them out but Perez doesn't have time, he wants results now.

What if Mourinho loses in all three cups next year, by playing defensive football. Would he get the sack considering Pellegrini has lost all three cups by playing decent football?
onsidering Pellegrini will be sacked because he

Actually i like Fabio football , Fabio play cautious football till the team gets his ideas and than bam .. best 14 consecutive games i've seen for Real in recent years
The problem is not big games Aasim , he won some of those .. they were crucial games ..
when you outwitted by the best manager in the world it's quite normal Pep is awesome manager and tactician , but when you are outwitted by Third division team , 3 month managerial experienced Leonardo and Puel (who i don't rate at all ) .. than no you let us all down
the players where not prepared for the occasion and that comes down to him , Jose for all his shit he prepare his teams quite well , you could see they knew where Barca will move/attack/pass next ..

you need to see who is available for the job who can give you a more tactical edge ...
Guus,Fabio..etc all busy .. Lippi don't speak anything but Italian and will probably retire ..
it's Rafa or Jose...who will u pick ?
I know Wenger remain first choice and i believe Perez is willing to stay without trophies for him

i am a lucky bastard and perez has a boner for me.

Or you have a boner for all thing related to Madrid

 

[Barcafan 2304]

Well, i for one cant wait until next season, gonna be very interesting!

 

[Aasim]

Actually i like Fabio football , Fabio play cautious football till the team gets his ideas and than bam .. best 14 consecutive games i've seen for Real in recent years
The problem is not big games Aasim , he won some of those .. they were crucial games ..
when you outwitted by the best manager in the world it's quite normal Pep is awesome manager and tactician , but when you are outwitted by Third division team , 3 month managerial experienced Leonardo and Puel (who i don't rate at all ) .. than no you let us all down
the players where not prepared for the occasion and that comes down to him , Jose for all his shit he prepare his teams quite well , you could see they knew where Barca will move/attack/pass next ..

you need to see who is available for the job who can give you a more tactical edge ...
Guus,Fabio..etc all busy .. Lippi don't speak anything but Italian and will probably retire ..
it's Rafa or Jose...who will u pick ?
I know Wenger remain first choice and i believe Perez is willing to stay without trophies for him

When i said not many managers out there who can do both, i meant available today. Fabio would IMO be the best manager for you right now but he's tied with England until Euro2012. Wenger wouldn't last a season because i dont think he would be able to mould a team which is not his into a winnable side. He did it 20 years ago but right now, he looks out of ideas. Plus he hasnt done anything in Europe. Valdano will probably want him though but do you really think Perez wouldn't ind Barca winning and Madrid coming in second?


As you say, its Rafa and Jose but Valdano hates both becuase of their style but if you want results then Mourinho is the man and i think Perez would sacrifice performance for results for only a season (maybe 2). After then he will want sexy football.
So its a question of short term Mourinho or long term, someone else.

 

[Beast]

Arsene problem is he stayed too long in Arsenal , he was Perez-Valdano first choice last summer
the difference between Arsene & SAF is ambition , SAF kept challenging himself , Arsene believed his own fans hype and stayed content with good football and no trophies .. it's like staying at the same job for a long time will hinder your development
his role would not be the traditional spanish style manager but someone in charge of the first team and youth team .. with Wenger results wouldn't matter for both as he would implement a system for the club .

If Cesc leaves the next 48 hours i believe Valdano will give him a try and if the response will be yes expect Mourinho to Real to fall through

remember Perez is a perfectionist , and he likes that in Arsene

 

[Metaphysical]

 

[Beast]

Failure like 98 % of South American managers in their European club adventure ...

 

[Metaphysical]

Failure like 98 % of South American managers in their European club adventure ...

who else has won the world cup and a continental trophy?

who else is good chums with CR and kaka?



(it won't happen, that's quite clear now, but I reckon it could be interesting).

 

[Beast]

National management has it's own setup and conditions Meta , he meet them for 3 days every couple of month .. they are trained already , willing to do a lot for their country ..

club management is day to day conflict , instructions .. etc Felipao stayed too long in the national teams management to go back to a club level and in a high risk/pressure club like Real.. his time @ chelsea ended with a big failure

 

[gvt2000]

Marca's saying Madrid could close Silva this week. Shouldn't you wait until you sign a new coach and see what his demands are, you know, let the coach build the team and not Valdano?