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gvt2000

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lol.. Jumped into the discussion.. just because i reminded you that Xabi played the entire season as a DM and told u he was further back behind anyone else.. what more do u need ? if you don't watch any games i suggest u got and subscribe instead of your usual BS , there is no argument better than where he played for 38 leagues games + the 8 games of Europe is there ?
.. seriously you are the last person to take about hypocrisy .. :lol:

As for lassm He left Chelsea & Arsenal cause he needed more minutes .. and he found that in Pompey , he was a star and RM fans favorite player the season before the last with 91 % votes ahead of Iker & higuain .. but we seem to love flops :rolleyes:
He had no problem with Mourinho except the game time but there was nothing unprofessional about his behavior with them and what happened with Pellegrini happened with all the rest of the players Gago (4 month out ) Granero (1.5 month and 1 month spread over two periods ) Guti 2 + month from Alco game and back vs Depor , Kaka Lyon till the vanishing of his "Mysterious " illness , Benzema..etc the list goes on , it's the way Pellegrini operated
for someone who live in Spain you should know the ABC of rumors , the moment the player is out of favor the machine start to justify the possible decision to sell him and that flop /unprofessional Lass has several offers from Spurs & United topping what we paid for him
what a flop .. i wish all our players are flops like him

Take your head out of your ass for some fresh air , i can smell it from here

And again, the Xabi Alonso argument was that he was not a real DM. His BEST years were with a bodyguard, playing as an organizer with some defensive responsibilities, i also pointed out i did not really care how pelegrini chose to waste Xabi alonso's abilities and that neither Del Bosque, Aragones OR Benitez considered him a lone DM and had never successfully played him as such. Your counterarguments to that were Pelegrini playing him as a DM (with great success, how many important matches did Madrid win again?) and:

anyhow U & Meta posts are clear.. it has nothing to do with Xabi.. it has everything to do with the flirting with disaster Busquets who's backpass/missed header gave the Swiss the goal ..

At no point did you even try to discuss Xabi Alonso's role in the national team, not once did you look past the fact that Alonso's a Real Madrid player and Busquets a Barcelona player, you didn't even try to analyze a Spanish team without Alonso. Because, you know, the threat in which i posted my views on Alonso was a world cup threat.

As for lass, no one's denying he was a great player his first season. His second, however, was the complete opposite. He went from being a key Madrid player to being the 2nd Sub. At the end of the 2008/2009 season, his name always came up when talking about the top DM players in the world whereas this summer he's not even considered when talking about potential madrid transfers. He went from semi-unknown to world class to 2nd sub, squad player in a 18 month span. Was he a flop his first 6 months as a Madrid player? of course not, he was brilliant. Was he brilliant this season? not even close.
 

Beast

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He was a complete opposite cause he didn't get along with Pellegrini during mid-season , Pellegrini wanted something and he didn't do it .. the result is the same result that happened to Gago,Granero,Guti,Benzema..etc
It doesn't mean he is a flop , flop is someone like Drenthe for example .. but definitely not Lass
my point was clear in xabi debate which seems you are changing your version of the story , i pointed out Xabi played there all season .. u said (and u can go back and check your posts )
NO HE WASN'T HE PLAYED AHEAD OF LASS
I said no he played behind Lass,Gago ..etc and in some game there was Guti-Granero and he was clearly the lone DM
than u kept talking about Qualities and past seasons
to quote you in your Busquets debate .. if Del Bosque thought he did an awful job he wouldn't play him now would he ?
anyhow Xabi is injured and it could be Javi-Sergi.. lets see what they will do with Portugal
 

gvt2000

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He was a complete opposite cause he didn't get along with Pellegrini during mid-season , Pellegrini wanted something and he didn't do it .. the result is the same result that happened to Gago,Granero,Guti,Benzema..etc
It doesn't mean he is a flop , flop is someone like Drenthe for example .. but definitely not Lass
my point was clear in xabi debate which seems you are changing your version of the story , i pointed out Xabi played there all season .. u said (and u can go back and check your posts )
NO HE WASN'T HE PLAYED AHEAD OF LASS
I said no he played behind Lass,Gago ..etc and in some game there was Guti-Granero and he was clearly the lone DM
than u kept talking about Qualities and past seasons
to quote you in your Busquets debate .. if Del Bosque thought he did an awful job he wouldn't play him now would he ?
anyhow Xabi is injured and it could be Javi-Sergi.. lets see what they will do with Portugal

Xabi has NOT been awful individually, he's done a good job, he's had some great attributes that any other team would kill to have. The problem is that, collectively, he slows down the game and forces Xavi to play further up the pitch than he normally does . He just doesn't fit in the Spanish first team's style, and definitely not as a lone DM.
 

John Antonio Bilboa

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Xabi has NOT been awful individually, he's done a good job, he's had some great attributes that any other team would kill to have. The problem is that, collectively, he slows down the game and forces Xavi to play further up the pitch than he normally does . He just doesn't fit in the Spanish first team's style, and definitely not as a lone DM.

I think Xabi has done his best with what he's been given but 4 spain there's obviously a problem he continually gets lost it the game forgetting his position and leaving gaping holes in the Spanish midfield. Busquest does the same. Xavi has less responsible as the creative influence in the team as he has to remain in the attack, Xabi has to understand that his responsibilities are more..........
 

Beast

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Mourinho already started his mental regime
on Cristiano
"I will not allow all the responsibilities of the team to fall on Ronaldo," Mourinho told Marca. "In my teams, when we win, we all win, and when we lose, I lose - so Ronaldo can relax and enjoy his holiday
 

Raed

Dr. Raed St. Claire
Mourinho already started his mental regime
on Cristiano

Fucking legend. I don't care what anyone says, these words sum up everything about him. He will shoulder loses and protect his players but haters will always think he is overly arrogant totally dismissing what he does for his team.
 
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ThePrestige

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yup.
taking shots from 40yards out.
ive always admired his confidence but some times its just hilarious:p
But thos shots are realy great. I've wanted that someone in Barca could make shots like Ronaldo. But Barca ALWAYS trie to get to penalty area.
 

Beast

The Observer
The club is negotiating the return of Fernando:worthy: fucking Hierro :worthy: return to be in charge of the Youth and help Mourinho
In case the negotiation end with success it could end the role of Pardeza as a sporting director , looks like Mourinho want more people of the generation that won the triple Champions league trophies and club legends around him , it will also be hard to convince Hierro to leave Del Bosque (who he likes and respect a lot ) and the role of a Spanish first football team director
needless to say Hierro had a bad memory with Perez
 

Barcaman

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Hierro was an awesome player. Very much liked him in pair with Alkorta the butcher. Such a shame he had to leave your club via back door.
 

Beast

The Observer
Hierro was an awesome player. Very much liked him in pair with Alkorta the butcher. Such a shame he had to leave your club via back door.
Big big shame , i will never forgive Perez for that :(
we haven't had a proper leader since , even when Manolo was the Captain Hierro was the leader
Any more rumours Beast with Real? Any other signings on the horizon?

well press is looking for something to fish , i told Nando a month ago there won't be many changes and Valdano confirmed that as well 1-2 signings after Di maria
latest is Ramires and that's a deal i'd love to conclude , he is a non-stop warrior on the pitch

meanwhile the English press continue to spread rumors about over the top money paid for Cole & Gerrard very unrealistic figures and far from the current reality of the club
 
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