FinBarcelonafan
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DejaVu. Welcome to Barca.
Ronald Koeman is new Barca manager
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Nazario1985
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So he can't drive a change under challenging conditions ?
He had Lukaku & Rooney fgs
What about Southampton ?
At valencia ? with one a hell of squad he broke the record of the lowest win rate for a valencia manager ever (20% win rate ) getting them nearly relegated.
Even in a weak dutch competition Louis van Gaal handled him the CHAMPIONS squad and by the best team in their league after leaving for Bayern, result ? he was sacked mid season loosing 8 games out of 16 !!
He can do all the talks he wants 'oh I'm tuff ' ' i want player to work harder' and all that gibberish, he never proved himself as a club manager and need to do it NOW with us.
I hope he succeed but right now seeing his performance in major leagues, the best bullet point in his CV is him being a former Barcelona player.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
You're high on crack or what?
He took over the AZ squad after their league title, but never was it the best team in their league. AZ is a decent team in all their history, but a fluke year of Ajax & PSV is what is giving them a title.
Even FC Twente did have a better squad and more money to spend.
The year before their title they came 11th in the league, and after their title it was 5th, 5th and 4th.
AZ is like the Villareal / Sevilla of the Netherlands. Decent football club, but one fluke year doesn't make them the best of the league year after year.
It's always between Ajax & PSV, while sometimes Feyenoord can be into the game.
Nazario1985
Senior Member
Lukaku played under Koeman !!
Nazario1985
Senior Member
Rank that squad low as much as you want
The fact that after Vangaal he did a shitty job and was sacked mid season
I don't really care about what he did in the Dutch league (garbage with AZ // good with Ajax/PSV), but rather what was done by him @Valencia @Southampton @Everton that stood out to me. (not in a good way)
JamDav1982
Senior Member
He did a very good job at Soton. You dont seem to know all that much about it.
Koeman is in to clean house and Barca need that for now.
El Gato
Villarato!
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Don't know how much it was him assembling that side with Mane, VVD, Tadic etc though. They had one excellent spring where they barely lost a game, which was also in the Leicester season where almost everyone was terrible. Otherwise it was all pretty patchy, standard Koeman. There's a good chance it'll work better in a bigger club though if it's one of those weird personality-fits-to-club situations.
Don't know how much it was him assembling that side with Mane, VVD, Tadic etc though. They had one excellent spring where they barely lost a game, which was also in the Leicester season where almost everyone was terrible. Otherwise it was all pretty patchy, standard Koeman. There's a good chance it'll work better in a bigger club though if it's one of those weird personality-fits-to-club situations.
JamDav1982
Senior Member
He did very well at Soton they finished 6th and he was there when likes of VVD, Mane and Tadic signed and gets credit for it.
Patchy at other clubs but Barca need a strong personality just now more than anything.
El Gato
Villarato!
Best ever Southampton finish was very good indeed, but beyond that and getting those 3 it's patchy, even at Soton. Just like anywhere else. If he had the same scouting staff there and took them to Everton, it's not a good look and basically means he got lucky with recruitment decisions in Soton.
Then don?t name that part of his history if you don?t have a clue what your talking about. The main reason AZ went to shit that year was the fall of DSB bank and the guy behind that bank was the primary person of the club.
He did some shit jobs at Valencia and Everton, but did some stellar work as well at Vitesse, Ajax, Feyenoord and NL team. Lets wait and see what he will bring he, before jumping to conclusions.
We have hit rock bottom, which we haven?t since mid 2000. Let him clean house and see if he can do any better than Valverde and Setien.
malvolio
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it's autumn already, check your calendar.
malvolio
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doesn't mean i'm wrong, imbecile
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