Ronald Koeman

[khaled_a_d]

I wouldnt mind him for another year. Its more important that the new board is brutally honest in regards to our players. I am more excited for some exits than new transfers. At least Koeman has proven that he trusts youth.

I am also with him staying another year, he is good in developing players and give a team a new style and direction, and modern one for that matter.

He is doing what fans wanted EV to do, make changes and play attacking style with our old farts still there. Change takes time and sacrifices, trophies next year is off the table so why not complete the rebuild with a coach willing to do the dirty work.


That said, the whole excited for exits is a bs for me. You need a proper replacement to this players, at least someone with potential.

Actually choosing to start Pique Lenglet CB pairing after Pique has been out for months. Playing Busquets ahead of them knowing these 3 in combination are awful against big teams or any team with a bit of pace shows how flawed Koeman is.

They were our best options, we only hates them because of the result, but it would have not changed if we played other available options.

 

[MTL_Barca]

Seems like replacing a small part of the turtle amigos with la masia kids wasn't enough to suddenly fix the team, who would've thought. The genius Pjanic move also didn't really get the team anywhere, another shocker.

It's basically the same conversation over and over again for like at least 3-4 years now.

Koeman also didn't improve the team all that much and pulled the obligatory pussy move starting Pique but we're already way past the point where a coach could just take over and turn things around. Maybe after Lucho or 1st/2nd Valverde season but after that it was already too late.

Gonna need to start from scratch pretty much.

 

[JamDav1982]

The reality check for Barca on players like Busquets was three years ago yet he still play sole DM on front of a shambles of a defence.

Koemann and the players got everything they deserved yesterday with that set up and even more what they deserved when refused to change it.

For weekend game Dembele should 100% be dropped for Trincao and midfield should be FDJ/Puig and Pjanic.

Can pick and choose what defenders need to play but Mingueza for any number of them.

There needs to be some comeback for playing as poorly as last night.

Busquets for example has been shockingly bad and a complete liability in three of last four games. None of which Barca were winning with him before he came off. Yet starts almost every game.

FDJ should be box to box in a team with energy but for now with this shite defence and Busquets toiling on front of them he should be back to DM.

 

[Messigician]

Why did Lenglet and Busquets start?

 

[Rory]

They were our best options, we only hates them because of the result, but it would have not changed if we played other available options.

Come on, a Pique that has just come back from a long injury is somehow a better choice than Umtiti and Mingueza who have both been playing regular football? Remember Pique was in poor form before the injury. Lenglet is no better than Umtiti/Mingueza at defending. Busquets could have been replaced with any other midfield option.

Also unfair point to just say it would not have changed as no one can know what would have happened.

 

[Messigician]

Would have sacked him after the 3-0 Juve loss if I were in charge.

Kid had 1 job lose at most by 2-0 and we would be against Porto right now and Juve knocked out by PSG. Who knows what we can do after Fati and the others are back.

Instead shit lineup after shit lineup and crappy subs.

Good player bad coach thank you for trying your best but it wasn't good enough bye bye.

 

[Messi983]

Why did Lenglet and Busquets start?

Better question is why did Pique start.

He was in no way in conditions to play.

 

[Messigician]

Better question is why did Pique start.

He was in no way in conditions to play.

Pique wasn't the issue. Just needed faster CB like Mingueza besides him or Araujo not retard Lenglet

 

[malvolio]

I wouldnt mind him for another year. Its more important that the new board is brutally honest in regards to our players. I am more excited for some exits than new transfers. At least Koeman has proven that he trusts youth.

he played youth because that's what we got. it's not like we had an established 11 and he re-wrote it.

played araujo and mingueza out of necessity. played pedri because coutinho was mostly injured. fati already started getting games since last season under valverde.

and we still don't know what's the real potential of araujo, fati and pedri. 2 of them where injured for the big matches. the other one failed in every big game he played.

 

[JamDav1982]

Pique wasn't the issue. Just needed faster CB like Mingueza besides him or Araujo not retard Lenglet

Pique was utter garbage as has been in every CL humiliation and is yet another slow, old player who is in team due to name and fact think it is all about technique and can pass a ball.

Pretty sure read he did not make one tackle yesterday... but who cares eh he looks good on ball.

 

[malvolio]

Better question is why did Pique start.

He was in no way in conditions to play.

because mingueza is shite. so he should have chosen between shit lenglet and shit migueza.

it's like people forget what bench we have.

 

[JamDav1982]

he played youth because that's what we got. it's not like we had an established 11 and he re-wrote it.

played araujo and mingueza out of necessity. played pedri because coutinho was mostly injured. fati already started getting games since last season under valverde.

and we still don't know what's the real potential of araujo, fati and pedri. 2 of them where injured for the big matches. the other one failed in every big game he played.

Most young players in teams get chances due to necessity it is about how much trust them from there and games after it.

Koemann needs to go further and dump Busquets/Pique etc or doing half a job on clear out of the old legs is pointless and all left with is a team low on energy/pace/physicality and techinque.

If those players are still at spine of team after summer then same will happen.

 

[khaled_a_d]

Come on, a Pique that has just come back from a long injury is somehow a better choice than Umtiti and Mingueza who have both been playing regular football? Remember Pique was in poor form before the injury. Lenglet is no better than Umtiti/Mingueza at defending. Busquets could have been replaced with any other midfield option.

Also unfair point to just say it would not have changed as no one can know what would have happened.

Umtit is worse than both, and Mingueza is a 2nd division level of player.
Pjanic has been also bad. We were choosing between bunch horrible options.
Is it unfair to say it would be same result with them? Maybe, but in that case it is equally unfair to say it would have been better with them.

 

[Rory]

because mingueza is shite. so he should have chosen between shit lenglet and shit migueza.

it's like people forget what bench we have.

As I posted the other day. Pique is a known failure in these types of games. Mingueza is not. That is reason enough to start Mingueza over him considering their defending abilities are roughly the same at Pique's age/physical condition.

 

[Rory]

Umtit is worse than both, and Mingueza is a 2nd division level of player.
Pjanic has been also bad. We were choosing between bunch horrible options.
Is it unfair to say it would be same result with them? Maybe, but in that case it is equally unfair to say it would have been better with them.

How much more is Umtiti worse than both? Can you rate them out of 100 so I can see what you believe the size of the gap in quality is?

The trio of Pique-Lenglet-Busquets has failed multiple times together in the very scenario of yesterday's match. I don't know if things would have been better, I'm simply saying choosing a formula you know to be a poor one is a dumb decision.