Scholes Vs Xavi (Not a direct comparison thread)

[Raed]

There are two schools of attacking midfielders, dribblers and tempo controllers. For the past decade and a half the king of the throne for the dribblers is Zidane and the king of the throne to the second school is Xavi.

No one passes the ball better than him, no one dominates possession like he does, no one can stay composed and defend like him. Fantastic motherfucker. It is like the Xavi is the yard stick and everyone else is a fraction. Scholes comes close to 100%.

Zidane has Iniesta as his threat. Iniesta will win more if not already won more, but Zidane did it in three leagues.

 

[La Furia]

There are two schools of attacking midfielders, dribblers and tempo controllers. For the past decade and a half the king of the throne for the dribblers is Zidane and the king of the throne to the second school is Xavi.

No one passes the ball better than him, no one dominates possession like he does, no one can stay composed and defend like him. Fantastic motherfucker. It is like the Xavi is the yard stick and everyone else is a fraction. Scholes comes close to 100%.

Zidane has Iniesta as his threat. Iniesta will win more if not already won more, but Zidane did it in three leagues.

Nice try. Maybe Iniesta can move to the French league in his old age to take his legacy to the next level.

I agree about the dribblers vs one touch passers but it's hard to draw the line at times. Zidane and Iniesta are different beasts from Xavi, but you then have someone like Riquelme who has to do both roles to be of any use.

Xavi is really one of a kind. Most others who are vaguely similar to him play deeper and more passively. Xavi blurs the line between CM and AM and you never really know where he's going to show up. I can't think of another player who can change their role like that without changing their game at all. Look at Cesc, for all the "next Xavi" talk he only really looks comfortable when he can play in a forward role and lead the attack. With Xavi, one minute he's controlling the tempo from the midfield, the next he's directly setting up a goal. He makes it look so uncomplicated too, but he has one of the most cerebral roles in football history.

 

[Catalonian Devil]

Scholes strikes me as more of a Pirlo-type player than Xavi, like La Furia said, Xavi blurs the line between CM and AM, Scholes and Pirlo blur the line between DM and CM IMO...

The breath-taking accuracy of Scholes and Pirlo's long passes from the DM area is absolutely unmatched imo, and what's really impressive about it is the consistency at which they spray those pinpoint passes. They make it look so damn easy...

I believe Paul is sorta underrated tbh, sometimes he doesn't get the credit he deserves...maybe it has to do with his 'dirtiness' ...

 

[barcelona6]

Scholes strikes me as more of a Pirlo-type player than Xavi, like La Furia said, Xavi blurs the line between CM and AM, Scholes and Pirlo blur the line between DM and CM IMO...

The breath-taking accuracy of Scholes and Pirlo's long passes from the DM area is absolutely unmatched imo, and what's really impressive about it is the consistency at which they spray those pinpoint passes. They make it look so damn easy...

I believe Paul is sorta underrated tbh, sometimes he doesn't get the credit he deserves...maybe it has to do with his 'dirtiness' ...

Alonsos long passing is better than Scholes imo,but I havn't watched Pirlo on a consistant basis so am not sure about him.

Scholes is overated by some people who says hes THE best midfielder of the last 2 decades when players like Zidane and Xavi are clearly better,Pirlo was the best player in WC 2006,Scholes as never played anywhere near that level for England.Viera and Roy Keane were arguably better than him in the Prem etc.

Riquelme was easily more talented,probaly more who was better than him but I didn't watch football before 1997.

 

[Catalonian Devil]

Alonsos long passing is better than Scholes imo,but I havn't watched Pirlo on a consistant basis so am not sure about him.

Scholes is overated by some people who says hes THE best midfielder of the last 2 decades when players like Zidane and Xavi are clearly better,Pirlo was the best player in WC 2006,Scholes as never played anywhere near that level for England.Viera and Roy Keane were arguably better than him in the Prem etc.

Riquelme was easily more talented,probaly more who was better than him but I didn't watch football before 1997.

I haven't met a lot of people that claim he's the best midfielder in the past 2 decades tbh, then again I don't know that many people from England...

Overrated in England, underrated outside of it might be more accurate...

 

[Footiefan]

Alonsos long passing is better than Scholes imo,but I havn't watched Pirlo on a consistant basis so am not sure about him.

Scholes is overated by some people who says hes THE best midfielder of the last 2 decades when players like Zidane and Xavi are clearly better,Pirlo was the best player in WC 2006,Scholes as never played anywhere near that level for England.Viera and Roy Keane were arguably better than him in the Prem etc.

Riquelme was easily more talented,probaly more who was better than him but I didn't watch football before 1997.

It is not that ManUtd supporters or English people rate his as the best midfielder of the last 2 decades. It is his opponents who has rated him. Zidane, Edgar Davids and many. Not that i agree with Zidane or Davids, but call him overrated is outrageous.

 

[Raed]

Nice try. Maybe Iniesta can move to the French league in his old age to take his legacy to the next level.

I agree about the dribblers vs one touch passers but it's hard to draw the line at times. Zidane and Iniesta are different beasts from Xavi, but you then have someone like Riquelme who has to do both roles to be of any use.

Because Italy was a shit league in the 90s, right?

Thought I agree with all that you said about Xavi. Can't argue, not that I want to anyways.

 

[barcelona6]

It is not that ManUtd supporters or English people rate his as the best midfielder of the last 2 decades. It is his opponents who has rated him. Zidane, Edgar Davids and many. Not that i agree with Zidane or Davids, but call him overrated is outrageous.

But if people are saying hes the best midfielder in the last 2 decades then hes clearly getting massively overated.

I hope your not one of those idiots who doesn't know what overated means,you can be overated but still be world class at the same time.

 

[Footiefan]

But if people are saying hes the best midfielder in the last 2 decades then hes clearly getting massively overated.
I hope your not one of those idiots who doesn't know what overated means,you can be overated but still be world class at the same time.

Who called him so? Apart from his opponents.

 

[DucdeOrléans]

Yes it is, as i said a remix this is it

Fair enough, although the versions I found had excluded it. Anyways the beat reminds me of a different song.

 

[barcelona6]

Who called him so? Apart from his opponents.

On red cafe they all say it,idiots.

 

[Footiefan]

On red cafe they all say it,idiots.

I dont think anyone has said he is the best midfielder of the last 2 decades. They rate him higher than Xavi and it is their opinion.

And there are many like that here when they say Scholes is no where near Xavi and all stuffs..

 

[S7___]

I haven't met a lot of people that claim he's the best midfielder in the past 2 decades tbh, then again I don't know that many people from England...

Overrated in England, underrated outside of it might be more accurate...

Guess who said this- "‘In the last 15 to 20 years the best central midfielder that I have seen — the most complete — is Scholes. I have spoken with Xabi Alonso about this many times. Scholes is a spectacular player who has everything.He can play the final pass, he can score, he is strong, he never gets knocked off the ball and he doesn’t give possession away. If he had been Spanish then maybe he would have been valued more.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...s-best-midfielder-20-years.html#ixzz1Gvdn94Lh

BTW: After visiting this forum i can understand why many people hate Barcelona.Great club with few not so great fans. Specially the one calling Scholes a cunt. Xavi considers scholes to be his rolemodel.And scholes is equally as sucessful at Club level as Xavi. Few stupid barca fans are making entire club look bad.

 

[medialmalleolus]

I know it's not a direct comparison thread but I guess if I had to choose one player it would be Scholes. Both are equally as good at short passing, but Scholes has the better long passing (don't bother arguing this point- I could direct you to hundreds of Youtube videos). Besides, the best people to ask are those who have played against them- in that respect Scholes has the more impressive testimonials (now including Xavi himself).

Xavi is an excellent player but he plays in a team (and league) where he is allowed to look good; Spanish football (league and international) involves a lot of short passing and intricate moves. Scholes on the other hand, plays in the Premier league (and previously England) where the style of play is not conducive to such a style. I agree with Xavi- if Scholes was born Spanish he would be more appreciated.

Both are legends- Scholes a degree higher.

 

[Red Devil 2]

Both are or have been world class midfielders, Scholes had a the added threat of his amazing shot aswell.

I'd give it Scholes but I'm biased.

And to read some of the posts on this forum about Scholes just makes we realise how stupid some are on this forum, Scholes overated lol!! he is one the greatest midfield players thats ever played the game.

As Is Xavi.