Sergi Samper
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God Serena
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Because everyone knows, if he's not a starter tomorrow he's not Barca material.
Best to loan him out to a La Liga club and see if hes good enough.
Sea_of_Frost
Member
And ignore the fact that he's learning to play as CM after playing CDM for years.
Let's just stick him into a La Liga team and hope for the best? Halilovic was our best loan since forever, what makes you think that we'll be able to send him to a proper team for his development?
BBZ8800
Senior Member
If we loan him:
1. maybe we will be lucky and he will turn into a great player while on loan
2. or maybe he will fail, get only some minutes, play in the wrong team, play on the wrong position/wrong system while on loan
So, a loan can either improve him a lot or ruin him.
On the other hand, if he stays here and doesn't get loaned, he has very, very small chances to turn into a Barca's level of a midfielder.
In a Bteam he can't improve/learn too much anymore.
In Ateam, he won't get too much minutes in upcoming seasons.
So, a loan doesn't guarantee anything.
But at least it offers some possiblities.
Currently, with staying at Barca, he is "frozen" in time and he isn't improving too much.
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Said who?
And anyway ,he has promotion clause and winter transfer is closed .so he will be Barca B player until the end of the season
Whether we loan or keep him is up to Lucho
BBZ8800
Senior Member
I meant in general, in future, not only this season.
He won't get too much minutes this season, and surely he won't get more minutes next Season with Iniesta, Rakitic, Arda, (Pogba or who knows which player??), Roberto, Rafinha, (Suarez??) etc.
Imo, loaning is his only chance.
Of course, there is always a chance that he will "explode" in Ateam, but imo, he has much higher chance to turn into Bartra if he stays here and remains xxth or the last choice for a midfield position.
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Jamie Cal
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It's worth taking into account, though, that his matches with the A team have (other than when Gumbo was playing) been at DM, and that's under Lucho. If he's seen as a DM with the first team, there'll be piles of minutes, especially as Masche doesn't have a lot of time left, and (imo at least) Roberto, while a good player at any position, suits having an open pitch infront of him to exploit.
But indeed, if he really is seen as a CM with the first team, he's screwed. None of our current CMs are going anywhere, and there's a good chance Denis or Hali will be added to the mix too. The Bartra correlation could be pretty on point.
But indeed, if he really is seen as a CM with the first team, he's screwed. None of our current CMs are going anywhere, and there's a good chance Denis or Hali will be added to the mix too. The Bartra correlation could be pretty on point.
Hes 21 years of age now, cant keep saying the future. he be 33 and you be still saying hes one for the future, Football is a short career
khaled_a_d
Senior Member
Playing time is good ,but it isn't the only way to develop for a team like Barca
Sometimes training everyday with the best players under a coach who is interested in developing you for a season or more can be actually more beneficial
Just like Roberto did last couple of years
Bartra himself is a much better player now than he was in 2013 IMHO
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
Who would you start him over? He's learning his new position with the B team anyhow. He'll be promoted this summer.
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
Adriano kept giving him the ball when he (Samper) had players on him. I think he'd play better if more of the regulars were present in the defense.
xXKonan
Senior Member
Still has lot to learn.
At this stage he isn't ready to Deputize Busi and I would love to see him being loaned out next season when he gets promoted. The potential is there obviously and Lucho seems to have confidence in him and a good loan for one season to a La Liga team would help him out.
At this stage he isn't ready to Deputize Busi and I would love to see him being loaned out next season when he gets promoted. The potential is there obviously and Lucho seems to have confidence in him and a good loan for one season to a La Liga team would help him out.
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