Sergiño Dest

[Horatio]

Reading Jamdav repeatedly say "taking L" is going to take some time getting used to.

 

[Birdy]

Ah so Barca are taking Ls on Emerson due to fact Spurs signed him and it makes him a top player.

Same rule for Lenglet. Got it.

Agreed if Bayern want Dest and he becomes a starter there for years he has proven some folk wrong and you right.

If Bayern dont want him or if goes there an flops. They were right.

I am talking against views of folk here.
What does Barca selling Emerson has to do with?

AGain,
if he goes there and flops, it proves only he is not WC RB
it does not mean that the Bayern people who want him now see 'worse' and judge 'worse' the player RIGHT NOW
than the BF experts

 

[JamDav1982]

Reading Jamdav repeatedly say "taking L" is going to take some time getting used to.

Old news.

 

[JamDav1982]

I am talking against views of folk here.
What does Barca selling Emerson has to do with?

AGain,
if he goes there and flops, it proves only he is not WC RB
it does not mean that the Bayern people who want him now see 'worse' and judge 'worse' the player RIGHT NOW
than the BF experts

Barca selling Emerson is relevant as you claim Spurs wanting a player shows their ability.

Dont bring them up if dont want those rules applied.

Lets see if you tell us all Lenglet is a player if they come in for him.

No if he goes there and flops it proves he is not good enough for Bayern and they made a mistake signing him.

Clubs make mistakes it happens. Your view that no fans can ever call a situation correct ahead of a big club is wrong. Happens a lot.

 

[Birdy]

Barca selling Emerson is relevant as you claim Spurs wanting a player shows their ability.

Dont bring them up if dont want those rules applied.

Lets see if you tell us all Lenglet is a player if they come in for him.

No if he goes there and flops it proves he is not good enough for Bayern and they made a mistake signing him.

Clubs make mistakes it happens. Your view that no fans can ever call a situation correct ahead of a big club is wrong. Happens a lot.

I guess that's part of your usual strategy of repeating the same things with the very same words, when you have been answered already.

Wrote it like 5 times already, and you insist trying to evade it

It's very simple:
The evidence we have so far from Dest (last season + this season) at Barca does NOT warrant the conclusion:
that he is trash,
that he won't cut it at Barca no matter what,
that he will not become a top RB
that a mummified version of Dani is better for the future

The argument concerns the evidence we have so far, not what will happen in the future
This is the point, and if Bayern are interested in buying him to become their starting RB, it supports this point.
Because Bayern's decision is based on the evidence we have so far from the player.
Got it?

Whoever wants to understand it, have already understood it.
If you can't understand it, I can't help you.
If you have understood it, and you want to distort the formulation of the argument, to have it your ways,
you won't/

Sorry
End of story.

 

[Jadentheman]

Bayern about to take a W and Barca will only have a 40 year old Alves

And for 45 million too, probably end up being even cheaper since that?s how this club is ran business wise.

 

[iniestaGOAT]

Bayern about to take a W and Barca will only have a 40 year old Alves

And for 45 million too, probably end up being even cheaper since that?s how this club is ran business wise.

Is it really happening? Bayern aint paying 45m for Dest. That man is a walking L.

Just fuck off from the club.

 

[Messi983]

Should have sold him in summer and kept Emerson. Just another evidence that Laporta&co. have no plans.

 

[JamDav1982]

Nah Birdy no 'end of story' there.

Bayern signing Dest would not mean anyone thinking he has not been good enough is wrong nor would it make you right on him being a top player.

You then stretched it to include clubs like Spurs wanting a player show how good a player has been for Barca... use that logic for Emerson, Lenglet etc.

That shows how poor your point is in trying to use clubs being after a player for how good they have been for Barca.

None of the evidence shows he has been top RB good enough for Barca either which is your claim.

The usual mental gymnastics from you and argument has gone from Bayern are transfer specialists and them signing Dest would end the debate and prove he is a top player.. to now clubs such as Spurs being after him is also evidence. But not that he is a great player. Just that he is not 'trash'.

Slippery eel and not consistent in slightest there chief.

Also trying to set rules so cant be proven wrong about 'evidence so far' and doesnt matter how does if leaves.

The 'evidence so far' is what people disagree on and it is future that will show who is right or wrong so of course it matters.

Your logic says 'evidence so far' has Lenglet as a top player BF experts have to take an L on if Spurs sign him.

That basically sums up your terrible argument.

Could just a easily say Barca being willing to sell Dest is as strong 'evidence' of his performances as any club willing to buy him. But my guess is your arrogance will be to think you know more than club while writing off others as 'BF experts' who cant possibly know more than clubs like Spurs, United etc.

End of Story.

 

[FCBarca]

Shame, I would've hoped he'd be better than he has looked in his short time here but I worried from the outset that the hype was unjustified for someone who still had much to prove

I assumed Xavi would take these next 6 months to assess him but apparently it barely took 6 weeks to conclude what a few saw already (myself included) - that he simply is not Barca level. Some clear reports suggesting Dest is out this winter

 

[khaled_a_d]

Should have sold him in summer and kept Emerson. Just another evidence that Laporta&co. have no plans.

Emerson looked like a mixed bag for Spurs, just like Dest.
Honestly I think Dest is treated unfairly, potential is still there and while there are areas that needs to be improved, for me he showed enough to have that RB for himself till the end of the year.
Getting mad at him in half time against Bayern after playing RW, signing Alves just after Xavi arrival, all seems like indications that Xavi made the decision way too early.

 

[Messigician]

He's trash

 

[Luftstalag14]

Bayern's scouts have had plenty of failures for sure, just like everyone else. Michael Cuisance was the latest example.

If Bayern wants Dest (I doubt it), pay up and don't go cheap and swindle us.

 

[Birdy]

Bayern's scouts have had plenty of failures for sure, just like everyone else. Michael Cuisance was the latest example.

If Bayern wants Dest (I doubt it), pay up and don't go cheap and swindle us.

The question is not whether Bayern's scouting is impeccable or not. Far from it.
Yes, I emphasized that they have much better scouting than us recently, but that is just supportive to the main question

The question, as I carefully explained it in 3 posts,
is whether the evidence we have from him so far suggests he is not Barca-level, and should be sold.

Bayern just buying him is enough to attest to the contrary on the evidence we have so far.
Bayern people watching the same tapes of him the last 2 season at Barca, like all his critics here and elsewhere

I think it's pretty obvious point, and it has nothing to do whether he would become the next Dani Alves at Bayern.
The ones who want to get it, have already understood my point

 

[JamDav1982]

Why does Barca selling him not prove the 'haters' right?

But Spurs wanting him would prove them wrong?

There is some twisted logic there and makes zero sense.

Clubs makes mistakes all the time and think they can see something in players that is not there.

How he performs once he leaves would help determine how good a player he is not just fact a club wants him.

Again... you logic equates to Lenglet proving folk wrong if Spurs want him.

Weak stuff as usual.

Birdys argument has changed to Barca wont sell Dest as he is quality and club know it to... that no longer matters what club think and it is all about a club being prepared to buy him that matters. Clubs like United and Spurs.