DonAK
President of FC Barcelona
Diego Costa started playing in Spain in 2008. Was first called-up in 2013 or 2014?
Marcos Senna started playing in Spain in 2002 and was first called-up in 2006 when he was granted Spanish Citizenship.
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Diego Costa started playing in Spain in 2008. Was first called-up in 2013 or 2014?
Marcos Senna started playing in Spain in 2002 and was first called-up in 2006 when he was granted Spanish Citizenship.
KingMessi
SiempreBlaugrana
He's only been in Spain since he was 26. And yet somehow he's more Spanish than Costa who's been in Spain since he was 18? If you take issue with one, you should take issue with both. Even though Costa's motivation in joining Spain was likely just to play at the World Cup in Brazil.
Leo_Messi
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Well, by principle I am against people who are not natives/have ancestral ties or who were not born in country x playing for that country. Senna's case was a bit different than that of Costa though. Senna was never considered for the Brazilian national team. Nor did he make such a fuss when choosing which country he wanted to play for as Costa did. BTW Senna was a great player and character. He was monumental during the EURO in 2008.
Costa's football upbringing occured in Spain and his breakthrough as a player too. So I have no doubt that he feels some connection to the country.
KyletheMuslim
Guardiolista
Diego Costa had actually been called up and played for Brazil in 2013, albeit in a friendly.
te amo barca
Blaugrana al vent
Juanmi is great, glad he got a call-up.
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linetty
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@RafaelH117 The twitter account of the city of Valencia said they’ll investigate Del Bosque for not calling up Valencia’s players.
@policialocalvlc Vamos a investigar el "robo" q se ha cometido al no llamar a @DaniParejo @paco_alcacer y @jose_gaya a la selección @valenciacf @kike_mateu
@policialocalvlc Vamos a investigar el "robo" q se ha cometido al no llamar a @DaniParejo @paco_alcacer y @jose_gaya a la selección @valenciacf @kike_mateu
Semi-Neutral
Sir Alupp Heynrguson
Didn't he call up their striker last international break?
CuleLife4Life
Active member
Brazilian here who has followed his case closely. Sorry but he just used Spain to go to the World Cup. Don't believe that crap about him feeling Spanish or having a connection because this is where his football developed. I'm not bitter at all for him not playing for Brazil mainly because I do't like his character but there are a few things I want to air out.
1. When he was called up for Brazil he accepted and his family did interviews with Brazilian TV stating how happy and proud they were. He himself stated the same thing when called up for Scolari's first set of friendlies.
2. When he wasn't called up for the Confederations Cup, he senses that he will not make the Brazil WC squad and starts the BS about Spain. He then goes on to say a series of things that he eventually contradicts like how he feels Spanish and Spain gave him everything in football and he owes them, etc.
3. After the World Cup flop and his move to Chelsea, he speaks about still being, loving, and feeling Brazilian. Talks about learning to play footall in Brazilian streets which was what made him different etc.
Long story short, it was a rash decision he made to go to the World Cup and I feel he probably regrets not waiting. I personally believe he doesn't really have interest to play for Spain anymore hence these "injuries" and not being totally committed.
1. When he was called up for Brazil he accepted and his family did interviews with Brazilian TV stating how happy and proud they were. He himself stated the same thing when called up for Scolari's first set of friendlies.
2. When he wasn't called up for the Confederations Cup, he senses that he will not make the Brazil WC squad and starts the BS about Spain. He then goes on to say a series of things that he eventually contradicts like how he feels Spanish and Spain gave him everything in football and he owes them, etc.
3. After the World Cup flop and his move to Chelsea, he speaks about still being, loving, and feeling Brazilian. Talks about learning to play footall in Brazilian streets which was what made him different etc.
Long story short, it was a rash decision he made to go to the World Cup and I feel he probably regrets not waiting. I personally believe he doesn't really have interest to play for Spain anymore hence these "injuries" and not being totally committed.
CuleLife4Life
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And I believe national team should be for natives or people born in the country or raised from youth. Thiago also switched over to Spain while his brother plays for Brazil. Mazinho their dad said that Thiago wanted to play for Brazil but Thiago has said something different and said he felt more Spanish. Plus our FA was shit in trying to find youngsters who grew up abroad until recently hence why we got Rafinha in time. He spent chunks of his childhood growing up in spain so I don't blame him.
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Leo_Messi
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That's also how I see it and this explains why most Spanish La Roja fans (me included) never really accepted Costa. It would probably have been different had he had a cracking World Cup and in general been playing much better/fitted better into the team than he has so far. This might change though. I don't think that people will look at him as "one of their own" though.
Thiago lived in Spain since 2005 continuously and had his football upbringing in Spain. He is a slightly different case than Costa IMO. Although he was born in Italy (Bari) so he could theoretically have chosen them too.
Anyway I would not have much against Brazilians of Spanish origin (for instance) choosing to play for La Roja if they were good enough. I mean if you really had to "adopt" foreigners to your national team.
Apparently 20 million Brazilians are of Spanish origin. Never knew that the numbers were this high.
http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inmigración_española_en_Brasil
CuleLife4Life
Active member
Thiago I understand since he actually spent chunks of his childhood in Spain.
And yea there are a lot Spanish decedents in Brasil along with pretty much any other country in Europe and Asia you can think of. I myself am Italian on my mother's side and German on my father's side. In Brasil though not many people continue having close ties to their country of origin so you aren't likely to find someone from Spanish origin eager to play for La Roja or say they feel Spanish.
Leo_Messi
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Indeed.
Yes, I know. It's the same everywhere else in Latin America and Northern America. I was just not aware of there being so many Brazilians of Spanish or partial Spanish ancestry.
Anyway it's no surprise really. Some sources say that there are 300 million (!) people of Spanish or partial ancestry overall in the world. Basically every (almost) person outside of the unmixed indigenous people and Blacks have Spanish ancestry in Latin America.
That's what I can imagine but if anything I would prefer people of actual Spanish ancestry to be "adopted" rather than those without Spanish ancestry if you really had to adopt foreigners to the national team.
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